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Hi folks! Thanks for letting me join you distinguished folks! Family history suggests Ulster-Scots roots, but I can't actually prove that yet. Oldest confirmed 4th Great GF William Black arrived in US around mid-1780s in NC Lincoln Co. I'm also confused by my J2b haplogroup, which doesn't seem very common for Scottish or Irish descent. Any other J2b's around? I'll post this in the genealogy section too.

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Welcome David,

We are very happy you found us.

The normally expected haplogroup for the British Isles is R1b, my own personal haplogroup is I1a (Norse) which is an analomy for my surname group.  My great grandfather was adopted by his stepfather and assumed his surname, which accounts for the surname I bear and explains the difference in DNA. 

Many different groups have migrated into and through the British Isles over the last several thousand years.  Y-DNA can prove a lot, but the paper trail does help explain a lot of mysteries.

-- Edited by MacPatrick on Wednesday 23rd of March 2011 10:26:44 AM

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Thanks for the input and the welcome. Glad to be here.

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David it appears your male ancestor ancient roots were from the Neolithic Greeks. This was back in 2500 BC era.  the fun is now how to trace their route backwards



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I am also confused by my J2b haplogroup. I have my paternal side dated back to the 1700s "near Donegal Bay". The place was in Ulster which eventually became a part of the Irish Free State ... So this pretty much narrows it down to Donegal County. Although we have some ties to Enniskillen in Fermanagh county. Since J2b is from around Greece, then my best guess would be that it came to Ireland from an invasion. Anyone else with insights into the J2b?

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Start with Wikipedia and search on Milesians. You will find many links to info. However, this IS the WWW so use caution. There were a couple of migrations, one along the Mediterranean and one further North, that met in Hibernia and thence to Ireland. Some say in 2500BC and some say 500BC. That said, family history trumps a lot.

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Haplotypes represent your ancient Male ancestry/ethnicity, 5000 to 10000 yrs ago. 1700 AD is a short time in the evolution of man. At that time period your ancestor was Irish by nationality but genetically he wasnt Celtic R1b. I am American who had Scottish ancestors who were Celtic. Dont get nationality and ethnicity mixed up.  Does that help?

 



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