Does anyone have any information about Luckey, Lucky, Luckie or its other variations and its relation to Clan Lamont. I do know that my surname and McLucas, Luck, Mac Lucais and Luc to name a few are connected.
I am keeping a list of any info I find on Septs of Lamont, someday these clues will mean something??
here is the earliest not I have found about your line
Lucas
Buchanan of Auchmar, who was the first seannachie of the Lamonts to end up in print, assembled a list of the septs of the Lamonts, recognized in 1723. These were -
McLucases or Lukes McInturners or Turners McAlduies or Blacks McIlwhoms Towarts
yes I had to look up what Seannachie meant
Sean´na`chie
n.
1.
A bard among the Highlanders of Scotland, who preserved and repeated the traditions of the tribes; also, a genealogist
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I was able to find in, "The Lamont Clan" 1235-1935, page 140 list information, on Gilliepatrick McLugas or McLucas of Garrachoran in Glen Lean from a cadet of Knockdow in 1618.
Thank you Ken and George. My maternal grandfather was a Luckey and his mother was a Brown. Ken, somewhere I have some informatin on my segment of the Luckey family going back to I think the middle of the 17th century. When I lay my hands on it, I'll forward it to you. Every little bit helps. Who knows, someday we may outnumber the Patricks.
That will be great. I have been working on my Luckey line for over 12 years. I have a few more insights than I did but still have not proved it. With some degree of possibility I believe I descended from a Robert Luckey that came from Londonderry Ireland in the early 1700's and settled in Lancaster Co. Pa.
This is the Luckey I am researching as my possible 5th greatgrandfather. Its possible that Robert had two brothers named John and Samuel with father Andrew that came from Londonderry also.
I just hope my Luckey FT-DNA project will provide some help in the future also.
Descendants of Robert Luckey
Generation No. 1
1. ROBERT2 LUCKEY (ANDREW1 LUCKIE)1 was born 1666 in Londonderry, Ireland, and died Nov 1757 in Martic Township, Lancaster Co. PA. He married ISABEL BAIRD2 Unknown. She was born 1690 in Londonderry, Ulster, Ireland2, and died Unknown.
Notes for ROBERT LUCKEY: Will of Robert Luckey Sr. - 1754
In the Name of God Amen the thirtieth Day of April in ye Year of our Lord One thousand seven hunred and fifty four I Robert Luckey of ye township of Marticks in ye County of Lancaster and provence of Pennsylvania being sick and weak of body but of perfect Mind and memory thanks be given to God therefore calling to Mind ye mortalety of my Body and Knowing that it is appointed for all Men once to dye I do therefore give and Recommend my Soul into ye hands of God that give it and as for my Body I Recommend the same to ye Earth to be buired in a Christen like and Decent manner at ye Discretion of my Executors and as for such wordly Estate wherewith it has pleased the Lord to bless me with in this Life I give and Dispose of ye same in the following manner and foreme after first paying all my just Debts and funeral Charges out of my movable Estate. IMPRIMES I leave and bequath unto my Son Hugh Luckey ye Sume of three Shilling to be paid by my Executors out of my movable Estate seven Years after my Deasese. Item I give and bequath unto my Sons John, Andrew, and James Luckey ye Sume of five Shillings to each of them to be paid by my Executors out of my movable Estate two Years after my Decesse. Item I give and bequath unto my Daughters Sarah and Jane Luckey ye Sume of three Shillings to each of them to be paid by my Executors out of my movable Estate seven Years after my Decease. Item I leave and bequath unto my Daughters Ann the wife of Samuel Hilles, Isable ye Wife of William Sleven, Mary ye Wife of William Orr and Agnes ye Wife of Robert Pendry ye sume of five Shillings to each of them to be paid by my executors out of my movable Estate two Years after my Decasse. Item I Give and bequath unto my Son James my Vice if demanded. Item I Leave unto my Son Samuel the one halfe of the plantation I am now Possest of as it is made over to him in writing under my Hand forever. Item I leave and bequath the other halfe of my Plantations to my Dear Wife and Son Robert Luckey to there proper use untill the said Robert Luckey shall arrive at ye Age of twintey one Years of Age then ye said halfe of ye Plantation is to be his ye sd. Son Robert Luckeys and his Heirs and Assigns forever and after said Son Robert is possessed of ye primisses said Sons Samuel Luckey and Robert Luckey shall pay to my Dear Wife a Reasonable mantainance at ye Discretion of my Executors. Item I Give unto my Son Robert Luckey my Little bay Gelding to hold ye same to him his Heirs and Assigns forever. Item I Give and unto my Dearly beloved Wife Isable all ye Remainder of my Goods and Chattels after paying Debts and Legeces to be Enjoyed by her forever. Item and if said Son Robert shall dye before he doth arrive at ye Age of twintey one Years of Age his part shall be sold to my Son Samuel Luckey at a reasonable price and devided among all my Children Equally only my Wifes manainance shall be as mentioned above. Item And I do hereby Constitute make and appointe my trustey friends John Grahams and John McDowel to be ye Sole Executors of this my last Will and Testament Ratifying and confirming this and other to be my last Will and Testament IN WITTNESS whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal ye Day and year aforesaid.
(His mark)
Robert Luckey (Seal).
Signed Sealed published by ye said Robert Luckey ye Testator as his last Will and Testament in ye pressents of us. Thomas McColley, James Reed.
LANCASTER COUNTY FS. Novr, the 21st 1757. Then perssonally appeared Thomas McColley and James Reed the Witnesses to the above and within written Will and the said Thomas McColley on his Corporal Oath and the said James Reed on his solemn Affirmation did declare and say that they were present and saw and heard Robert Luckey the Testator above named Sign Seal Publish Pronounce and declare the above and within writing as and for his last Will and Testament and that at the doing thereof he was of sound and disposing Mind Memory and Understanding to the best of their knowledge Observation & Belief. - Edwd. Shippen d. Rr, BE IT REMEMBERED that on the 21st. day of November 1757 the last Will and Testament of Robert Luckey deceased was proved in due form of Law and probate and Letters Testamentary were granted unto John Grahams and John McDowel.
More About ROBERT LUCKEY: Probate: 21 Nov 1757, Martic Township, Lancaster Co. PA Will: 13 Apr 1754, Martic Township, Lancaster Co. PA3
More About ROBERT LUCKEY and ISABEL BAIRD: Marriage: Unknown
Children of ROBERT LUCKEY and ISABEL BAIRD are: i. HUGH3 LUCKEY, b. 1686; d. Unknown. ii. JOHN LUCKEY, b. 1688; d. 25 Oct 1773, Rowan Co. NC.
More About JOHN LUCKEY: Burial: Thyatira Presbyterian Church Cemetery, Rowan Co. NC
iii. ANDREW LUCKEY, b. 1695; d. Unknown; m. ELIZABETH THOMPSON, Unknown; b. Unknown; d. Unknown.
More About ANDREW LUCKEY and ELIZABETH THOMPSON: Marriage: Unknown
iv. JAMES LUCKEY, b. 22 Jul 1725, Lancaster Co. PA; d. Abt. 1799, Lincoln Co. North Carolina; m. SARAH NIXON, Unknown; b. Unknown; d. Unknown.
Notes for JAMES LUCKEY: "In the name of god Amen the Sixteenth day of September One Thousand Seven hundred and ninty nine; I James Luckey of Lincoln County and State of North Carolina being Very Sick and weak in body but of perfect sound mind and memory, thanks be to Mighty God for the Same; and calling to mind the mortallity of my body; and knowing that it is appointed for all men once to die;do make ordain Constitude and Appoint this and no other to be my Last will and testament; that is to say first and principally of all, I recommend my Soul to Almight God; who gave all, and as for my body I recommend to the Eart to be buried in a Christian like and Decent manner at the discreation of my Executor hereafter mentioned; nothing doubting but I Shall Receive the Same at the General Resurrection by the power of Almighty God; and as touching Such Wordly Estate wherewith it hath pleased the Lord contrary to my me with in this life. I give and dispose of in the following form and manner In the first that all lawful demands against my estate be truly
More About JAMES LUCKEY: Will: 16 Sep 1799, Lincoln Co. North Carolina4
More About JAMES LUCKEY and SARAH NIXON: Marriage: Unknown
v. ANNE LUCKEY, b. 1707; d. 1782; m. SAMUEL HILLIS, Unknown; b. Unknown; d. Unknown.
More About SAMUEL HILLIS and ANNE LUCKEY: Marriage: Unknown
vi. ROBERT LUCKEY, b. 1709; d. 1772, Rowan Co. NC; m. MARY MITCHELL, Unknown; b. Unknown; d. Unknown.
More About ROBERT LUCKEY: Will: 06 Oct 1772, Rowan Co. NC
More About ROBERT LUCKEY and MARY MITCHELL: Marriage: Unknown
vii. SAMUEL LUCKEY, b. Abt. 1733, Martic Township, Lancaster Co. PA; d. Abt. 1802, Rowan Co. NC; m. MARY; b. Unknown; d. Unknown.
Notes for SAMUEL LUCKEY: On November 4, 1777, Samuel Luckey, Sr. pledged his oath of fidelity to the State of North Carolina. On June 12, 1778, the state of North Carolina granted him 640 acres of land on both sides of Hunting Creek adjoining James McGuire, Robert Bell, Richard Neely, and John Van Eaton lands. File at: http://files.usgwarchives.org/nc/rowan/wills/luckeysr234nwl.txt This file has been created by a form at http://www.genrecords.net/ncfiles.
More About SAMUEL LUCKEY: Will: 04 Jan 1801, Rowan Co. NC
viii. ISABEL LUCKEY, b. 1724; d. Unknown; m. WILLIAM SLEVEN, Unknown; b. Unknown; d. Unknown.
More About WILLIAM SLEVEN and ISABEL LUCKEY: Marriage: Unknown
ix. AGNES LUCKEY, b. Unknown; d. Unknown; m. ROBERT PENDRY, Unknown; b. Unknown; d. Unknown.
More About ROBERT PENDRY and AGNES LUCKEY: Marriage: Unknown
x. MARY LUCKEY, b. Unknown; d. Unknown; m. WILLIAM ORR, Unknown; b. Unknown; d. Unknown.
More About WILLIAM ORR and MARY LUCKEY: Marriage: Unknown
xi. SARAH LUCKEY, b. Unknown; d. Unknown. xii. JANE LUCKEY, b. Unknown; d. Unknown.
Endnotes
1. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), data as of January 1998. 2. Ancestry.com, One World Tree (sm), Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., n.d., Online publication - Ancestry.com. OneWorldTree [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc. 3. Robert W. Ramsey, Carolina Cradle, Settlement of the Northwest Carolina Frontier, 1747 - 1762, (1964 by The University of North Carolina Press), pg. 117. 4. Grace Turner and Miles S. Philbeck, Jr., Lincoln Co., NC Will Abstracts, 1779-1910.
my name is Peter Lukei I am from germany and i am looking for the famely Lukei/Luckey in germany! In germany the first Luckey/Lukei what I found life in 1458.
It is very heavy to found any informatin over the Family Luckey/lukei.
Your post is from back in 2009, but I just became a member of the forum today, so thought I'd respond with some of my research, hopefully not old hat to you by now. In researching my own name, Lokey, I found quite a lot in Black's Surnames of Scotland, pretty much the authority for this. I'll quote liberally from it:
Referencing my own name, I find on p. 156, "Clokie - A shortening of Macluckie" and "Cluckie (Wigtown) - A shortening of MacLuckie".
Researching "Loky and Lokky", found on p. 436 under "Lockie - ...derivation is from Luckie, from Lucas or Maclucas..."
p. 442, "Luckie - a diminutive of Luke...MacLuckie"
p. 443, "Luke - Families of this name long had connecton with Berwickshire...the name is also found early in Glasgow. Adam (p. 138) says the habitat of the Lukes was the shores of Lochfyne, and that they are an offshoot of the Lamonts. Some Maclucases Englished their name as Luke"
P. 539, "MacLucas (MacLugaish, MacLugash, MacLugish)...son of Lucas...Gillepatric McLugas acquired the hill steading of Garrachoran in Glen Lean, 1618 (McKechnie, Lamont, p. 140)...has also become Lucas in Argyllshire. Many persons have dropped their name Maclucas and have become Macdougalls in the north and Douglases in the south, and in Coll Lucas and MacLugais are now Macdougall. In the Isle of Man the name is current as Clucas. ...The Cowal Maclucases are reckoned a sept of the Clan Lamond. McGlugas 1692, McLucase 1609."
p. 539, "MacLuckie, MacLucky - corrupt forms of Maclucas...McLockie in the parish of Glastoun..., Galloway, 1684...George MacLuckie in Kippen. 1726...Donald McLuke in Shenlarich, 1644...McLokie 1684"
p. 539, "MacLugash, MacLugaish, MacLugish (in Lorn). Current forms of MacLucas..."
p. 539, "Maclulich, MacLullich, MacLullick..."
So, a lot of possible relations for you and me to research cousin. Doesn't get any easier
BTW, the first in my line in the American colonies is John Lokey, 1663, in Somerset county, eastern shore of Maryland. I am the first Lokey in my direct line not born on the Eastern Shore of Maryland in almost 300 years (native Californian). The shore was settled from 1662- to the early 1700s by Scots-Irish, i.e. Ulster Scots, where, under the itinerant minister and missionary, Francis Macamie, from the Lagan parish in County Donegal, Ulster (but educated in Glasgow) they formed the first presbytery in America. Near as I can determine, the Ulster Scots I am descended from were first in Virginia (probably in Accomac county) and migrated north into Maryland because of the religious persecution they received from the Anglicans in Virginia (most of them were dissenting Presbyterians who had migrated from Scotland to N. Ireland and subsequently to the new world).
I am looking for the Family Luckey/Lukei historye in Germany but I dont now wher the Family Luckey came.
I have heard from a story that a Family Luckey to leave Scotland in 1640. The Family had have 12 children and 4 from them going to Germany oll the rest goes to USA.
But I found the name Luckey/lukei very early in 1456 in Germany.
A lot of Family Luckey goes from germany to America and hoppe for a new live.
hir in germany at give many divers spelling for the name Luckey. The call them Lukei ,Luckei ,Lukai Lukkey .......................
also i hope every one it cames light in the dark of the Family history
I have no direct info on Luckeys going to Germany from Scotland during the fifteenth century, however I do know that Scots migrated all over Europe as early as the fourteenth century, particularly as merchants and mercenaries. When the economy suffered in Scotland, as it did on a fairly regular basis, Scots traveled abroad. There are plenty of accounts of Scots fighting for most of the kings of Europe, including France, Russia, Sweden, Italy, the Baltic states (Hanseatic League) and of course the German states. Many times Scottish mercenaries formed the bodyguard of European kings and actually fought each other on the field of battle. Most of the time they stayed in expat communities during their tenure and then stayed on and were eventually integrated into the foreign nation in succeeding generations. I have some research somewhere that I'll email you when I can lay my hands of it, but of course it is general in nature, i.e. about Scottish migration in general instead of Luckeys in particular. I wrote a graduate school paper on Scottish mercenaries some years ago that I'll try to locate. No doubt you have Scottish ancestors. The difficulty is in finding the specific ones.
Luckey's please consider DNA testing to see if you have a common bloodline. This will help you focus your genealogy. it will confirm how close a relationship you have and how far back the common ancestor might be.
We have a Lamont DNA group and the Ken Luckey has a separate sub-group Luckey DNA. You can belong to both groups.
Both Ken and I would be glad to help you figure this out
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Didn't realize you were supplying the link in your email. I opened it and scanned the information on DNA. Now what do I do? Can I coordinate a DNA package with you for Lamont?
Thank you for the warm welcome. Are there any local upcoming events, highland gatherings, Burns Nicht, etc. in Georgia that Clan Lamont is participating in where I might meet some of my kin? I've only recently become aware of my Scottish roots, since my family always said we were Irish (like many of Scottish ancestry, my grandfather didn't understand the term Scots-Irish), so am new to this. Incidentally, I spent Christmas in Scotland with my daughter, who went to grad school in Aberdeen, Scotland and stayed to work and get married to a Campbell. Anyway, while driving thru the Dumfries and Galloway area of Southwest Scotland a couple of weeks ago, I was talking with another Campbell in Kirkcudbright, who told me that there are a lot of Luckies/Luckeys in the area. What can I say about the Campbell involvement? It's a family thing, now
I came here after searching for my lineage. I have a brick wall, a James Lucky (Luckey) born about 1802 in NC, moved to KY and is found in the 1850 census (some say in the 1840 census, but I haven't seen that one.) I know for sure that he is a gggg (How many?) grandfather of mine, but since the name was so common in the Luckey family from Lancaster Co, PA, I can't seem to figure out which family exactly. I think he's descended from Samuel Luckey Jr, son of Samuel Luckey Sr, son of Robert Luckey from Ireland. That is based off of family hearsay, they've heard that the father of James was named Samuel.
I searched, and I cannot for the life of me find any children of Samuel Jr. named anywhere. Is there a James, born around 1802??
I found another Luckey, William, who has much better chance of being the father of the James I'm looking for, because the dates match much better. His will quotes that he has a grown son, James, with no children. James would have been around 23-24 in 1825.
My big problem is that the James quoted in William Luckey's will has no child yet, and inherits a big bunch of land and possessions, while his possibly older siblings with children get a very small portion. Why would he move to Kentucky between 1824 and 1850? He married a woman, Elizabeth, from Kentucky, 14 years younger than he. That's why I've hit a brick wall. It doesn't make sense, I can't figure out a political or economical reason, and I see no crimes committed by this James Luckey. Also, why is his name spelled incorrectly in KY, when it is documented that he was literate? It has persisted, all the descendants today spell it "Lucky."
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Hello all that are interested in the many different spelling variations of the Luckie surname. George brought all this activity too me. I have not posted to this forum in quite sometime.
This is the following url: for the Luckey Project along with all its variations. http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Luckey/
George and I would love for you to have your DNA tested and join both groups, Lamont and Luckey Projects. There is no extra charge to join other groups in the Family Tree DNA Project.
From my earlier post you can see my first ancestor to this country was probably a Robert Luckey from Londonderry. Ireland. I have lots of Y-DNA matches but none that share my surname even any with the other spelling variations.
Hello together to After a long time I once again on this page. In 2011 I have a DNA test done at Family Tree DNA Project and signed up with Lamont and Luckey Projects. Unfortunately, I have until now no new cognitions if my family and my name comes from scotland. Sorry my english is not so good, and unfortunately, I can not understand the results of the Family Tree as well. Recently I've given a new test in order, "Family Finder"! Whether the test was a good choice I can not yet say. The result I'll get in a couple days. Best greetings from Germany Peter Lukei
-- Edited by Lukei on Wednesday 23rd of January 2013 02:59:04 AM
Hi Tom, thank you for your nice reply. Yes I know George Young for quite some time we have contact through Facebook. On Facebook there is a group Lamont. 2 years ago I had Gorge where ever my DNA data and he wanted to look at sometimes. But unfortunately they did not answer! Perhaps the test was not as meaningful, the exact assignment is difficult. I signed up even at the Lamont DNA Project / Luckey DNA Prjekt.
www.familytreedna.com/public/Luckey
But unfortunately I can not do with the result so much. But I am really looking forward to the result of the upgrade. best greetings Peter Lukei
-- Edited by Lukei on Wednesday 23rd of January 2013 03:39:15 PM
Peter. Don't worry about the English. It has been many years since I used my German. You would laugh if I did. We can understand just fine. We are finding more Lamont septs on the continent as we go along. I am part of the Lambie Rootsweb and the are several Lambie relations in Germany. Keep moving forward and welcome. George Young our senior President can help explain the results of the DNA tests.
I also have not discovered any concrete evidence directly to Scotland either. You are the same Haplogroup as myself, R1b1a2 or shorthand R-M269.
However, I did discover thru the Deep Clade test that I do have a Celtic bloodline, a little further down the branch. I do match the Luckie gentleman is our Luckey Project but he has no more paperwork than I do, to take us across the big ocean.
Maybe the Family Finder will help you, please respond back to the forum if you find any results. I am glad you also belong to our Luckey project. http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Luckey/
Hallo Ken, thanks for the reply. yesI also belong tothe groupR1b1a2R-M269but85% ofmenineuopabelong. Youneedthere alreadyproduceaccuratesamplestoa connection. It would benice to knowif myFamiliyofScotlandIrelandorEnglandis. Let's wait forthe next testfromthenwemay knowmore. best greetings Peter Lukei
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-- Edited by Lukei on Monday 28th of January 2013 06:54:11 AM
Hi Ken, If I could I would send you something roast, sauerkraut and Hefeweizen. But the transportation is certainly not that simple. But maybe you do time travel in Germany then I invite you to Sauerkraut and Hefeweizen. best greetings Peter Lukei
-- Edited by Lukei on Thursday 18th of April 2013 08:52:45 AM
Peter,
On a side note, I am proud of my German ancestors. My grandmother on my mothers, side was, Vanderburg, however the 1st ancestor of this line was Francis Funderburg. I don't know why the change of name. He is buried in one of the oldest Lutheran Churches in nearby Cabarrus Co. NC. I believe Funderburg is German.
I know I love my brats and sauerkraut and hefeweizen! Weihenstephaner, oldest brewery in the world, one of my favorites.
Ken
a few days ago I received the result of the "Family Finder" of the Family Tree. But unfortunately I did not learn many news. By "match" me, some people appear to come mostly from England or Scotland. The "Population Finder" shows me 100% from Scotland and England " (Orcadian)
best regards from Germany
-- Edited by Lukei on Monday 8th of April 2013 06:41:39 AM
Hello all. I just got my results of the DNA screening done by Ancestry.com , a gift from my son. I have not downloaded the raw data nor do I know what to do with it. Is it any use to anyone here?
This thread has apparently been around a while, but I thought I would add my two cents to it.
My great great grandfather, George McLuckie, left Scotland for Allegany County, Maryland in 1866. His son Alexander ended up in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania where he died in 1930 at 48. There are other McLuckies in Western Pennsylvania, and doing a quick Google search for my cousin's apparently shut down website, there are lots more across the US and in Canada and the UK.
My wife is a descendant of the Mcinturners/Turners of Craigcoll, Argyll.
In 2011, we made a video "Tears In The Glen; the story of her ancestors (including their connection with the Lamont Clan. It can be seen here: https://www.youtube.com/edit?video_id=TNd8K0B3S7s&video_referrer=watch