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What is the protocol regarding non-clan kilts, such as a state tartan design?

My DNA points to Scotland but I am still working on the who part so I was wondering if it is proper to wear a kilt in my state tartan? (Texas Bluebonnet)

http://www.scotlandforever.net/bluebonnet.html

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You can wear whatever tartan you want to. Except Campbell. Unacceptable. But Black Watch is the general "I'm from Scotland" tartan. State tartans are always ok. If you can find them.

 



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Thanks James, another qusetion.  Just what is the definition of  "Black Watch"? confuse



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no kilt police running around, you can wear any tartan you like. Most people like to have some connection but not always neccesary. over 5000 registered tartans out there.

The Black Watch is a old Brittish miltary unit formed formed: three from Clan Campbell, one from Clan Fraser, one from Clan Munro and one from Clan Grant These companies were known by the name Reicudan Dhu, or Black Watch. They were formed initially in 1725 as a police unit to control the Highlands but have gone on to be a hghly decorated regiment fighting in every major war since then,

The Lamont tartan is a variant of the Black watch adding a white stripe.



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Thanks George, I have always tried to earn everything hat is why I am waiting until I can get better DNA results back if I can find the right people.

 I do know that I have ties to Scotland from my DNA and Texas is where I live so that Bluebonnet kilt would work until I can prove more about my ancestors.

I may be old fashioned but that is just me, heck I have not worn my fatigues since I got out in 78 because of the strips and unit patch.  Of course now they wouldn’t even stand a chance of fitting either.  

So is the Black Watch where the law man (Lamont) came from or did Black Watch come afterwards?



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the name Lawman comes from Sir Lamont's Norse mothers background, The Lamont's are Celts from the O'Neils of Ireland back about 900 or 1000. The black watch comes into existence about 1700's and no Lamonts that I am aware of were in it early on. They were mainly Campbell in the early days.



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Thanks for the history George, interesting stuff.



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smile The bluebonnet tartan is a handsome one.  Would love to see more of it! 



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I wonder if there will be any vendors at the Arlington shin dig in 2 weeks that may have some?  biggrin



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You can wear whichever tartan you want, its just good manners to have some affiliation with the clan although I think it is a sort of tribute to the clans for people to wear their tartan, as long as it it worn properly and with respect. Most tartans that are not meant for clans are usually considered fashion tartans and can be worn by anyone ( in most cases ). There are tons of more informative resources available pertaining to tartan, here is an excellent website: http://www.tartansauthority.com .
Good luck in your search.

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Thanks Eric,

I did find a link on X Marks the Scot to a Dr Nicholas J Fiddes, Governor of the Scottish Tartans Authority.

This gentleman has a E-Book I down loaded (its free) and it have a lot of great information in it.  biggrin



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Excellent!

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I own several kilts (one of which is a filleadh beag in Ancient Lamont).

As I am of both Scots and Irish ancestry, I occasionally wear my St. Patrick tartan. (See attached picture)

I also own two Amerikilts, one in black and one in forest green, which I wear working in my garden.



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Same here. I have Ulster Weathered ( Irish ), County Mayo ( Irish ), Roxburgh District, Jones ( Welsh ), MacAlpine Ancient and Modern, Lamont Ancient and Modern, and two modern utility kilts, one in British DPM camo, and one in US ACU camo. I had a few more but I have been thinning the herd to make room for other things.
Next one on my "must have " list is Isle of Skye and Auld Lang Syne grey.

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Go with your first choice. Because in Texas everything is better wit BlueBonnet onit!

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well due to the short time I had to get one in my size for my first on it got a American Heritage Tartan from USA Kilts as the had it on hand and to me in 3 days  smile
But more to come  biggrin



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I had an American Heritage from them in the casual, very cool tartan. I wouldn't mind having it again in one of their semi-trads.

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I like the reason for the colors in it too, this is from the USA Kilts page

The American Heritage tartan was designed by USA Kilts to honor Americans with or without Celtic heritage. It is a private fashion tartan designed for ANYONE to wear, regardless of clan affiliation. The colors red, white and blue were chosen to represent the colors of the American flag. The color black was chosen in remembrance of the brave men and women who have died in defense of our country.

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