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cynthia · Member

John Patrick married Margaret Leedy in Virginia 1856

Denpat55 · Senior Member

Hi Cynthia, my fifth great grandfather Robert Patrick b. 1705 d. 1765 came over from Scotland in 1725. I don’t know if his brothers came over at the same time but they all came over to America. His three brothers are Hugh Patrick b. 1708 d. 1778, William Patrick b. 1712 d. 1771, and John Patrick b. 1715 d. 1765. I don’t know if this is the same John Patrick that’s all the info I have on him just his birth and death dates. Here is some info I have on Robert Patrick.

Robert Patrick came to Philadelphia PA on Aug. 25, 1725 at the age of 21. He came as a bound servant on the ship Amity from the Bideford, England. He was Indentured Servant to James Gerard. He owned property in 1741 in Salisbury Township, Lancaster County PA. and Yellow Britches Creek, PA. Between 1754-1758 he was Constable of Sugar Loaf Hundred. His son James was one of the Colonel Washington's soldiers at Braddock's Defeat defeat. Most of Robert Patrick's children served with Washington in the Revolutionary War.
The family of Robert Patrick b. 1705 is believed to have lived near George Washington and are believed to have been well aquainted with the Washington family. I read one account somewhere that said they were childhood friends. James stated in his Pension Affidavit that he knew George Washington long before the Revolutionary War.

cynthia · Member

Hi Dennis,
     I was in contact with a Robinson Family member who presently lives in Texas, he is a member of ancestry.com and told me to get a membership with that service and then he would have more information to give me. His research showed my ancestors also coming over on the Amity in 1725. Although I do not know where they boarded the ship. I will update my post. Do I start a new thread or do I just reply to your post?
     Thankyou for your reply
           Cynthia L. Davis

P.s. I also know that after they arrived they first spent time in PA and Maryland.
Furthermore I do have a list showing, forget exactly now, about 10-14 generations of father/1st born son list. It is amazing.

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Denpat55 · Senior Member

Cynthia,
I found this on Ancestry.com it has John Patrick & Margaret Patrick
http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.isenhour/50.1/mb.ashx
and this on rootsweb
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=AHN&db=thomass&id=I02311

cynthia · Member

I am going to get a subscription just as soon as I can. There is some extensive family history on it ,so I have been told. This is so exciting!!! I will keep you updated with what I find out. I have strong hunch we are distant relative and have family in common. It a little to coincidental that my ancestors also arrived same ship same year.

MacPatrick · Senior Member

This is exciting, I'm anxiously awaiting the new information.

We are probably related, the three Patrick brothers seem to be the progenitors of most of the southern Patricks. It would be great to be in a position to put the the three lines together.

Denpat55 · Senior Member

Cynthia,
You don’t need a subscription to see thoughts files just click on the link. I found them by doing a Google search and clicking on the link, and I don’t have a pay subscription.

cynthia · Member

I am working on it.

     O.K I read the links and one thing that matches, and it is in my grandmothers handwriting, listed next to John and Margaret Patricks only daughter {and showing she was one daughter and 9 brothers.wow!}that Mary Patrick married Coon and it does not say Conrad or Coonrad just Coon (spelled}Eisenhower and my grandmother made a note next to it saying coon eisenhower was a relative of President Eisenhower.
     The other link mentioned Thomas Patrick. Which from my records it only had his 1st and last name and no BD. So it was nice to fill in the blanks for him. Thomas would be Thomas Jefferson Patrick(showing my records as John and Margaret's #3 son) married Evaline Gideon b.about 1860, they had a son Charles F. Patrick. Charles married a Ella Mae Roberts and they had a son named Joseph Melvin Patrick b.Feb.11, 1904 and d. Sept. 20, 1975 Joseph Melvin Patrick married a Walcie Dora Stewart b.Feb. 10, 1907 married her on Feb. 13, 1925.

     I am sitting here trying to figure out where am I going with this knowledge??? I know it is important to me but what do I do with it. Also there is a living relative in Lamar, Co. He might do work for the museum there. Anyway when I stopped in Lamar, CO. to see my g.grandfather and g.g. grandfather's grave and all the family there their graves, the caretaker came by and I introduced myself. He said a man about my mother's age pointed to my g.grandfathers grave and said that is my grandfather buried there he also told the caretaker he knew there were 2 or 3 gravesites with children who had no headstones and he wanted to get them all a headstone someday, I believe these graves were the children of Henry Robert Patrick and Julia Ash Patricks children. I thought it would be great to put an ad in the local Lamar, CO. paper stating I was looking for this person.
     Yes I can see with all these names and dates how accidentally things could get written down incorrectly and passed as fact when it might not be. My sources come from it says on the paperword at bottom right this as sources - Vol. II Annals of Tazewell Co., VA. then Archives, Salt Lake City, Utah, Tazewell Co., VA. As far as I know a cousin of my Mother's who is named Elsie who lives or lives in Oregon got a hold of this, it would be nice if I could find her, because I remember as a little girl my grandmother used to drive from Spokane just to visit her.
     I am going to try and find a Mr. Robinson email address thru ancestry. com and send him a email he would love to know about this site, plus he can or should be able to fill in a bunch of blanks. He lives in Texas . all for now, Cynthia

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cynthia · Member

I found this photo the other evening while doing a search. It is a photo of John Patrick b.1836

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MacPatrick · Senior Member

Hey, you are doing great, just keep chipping away at your line and digesting the information. One day it will all fall in place.

There is a lot of history in cemeteries, be sure and take pictures of all the tombstones you think might help you in the future.

cynthia · Member

Hello again, I have searched cementaries near Tazewell a couple years ago, no pictures of tombstones, there were descriptions instead, there were a number of Patricks there. I think I'll go back and look because I remember there were a few people who all showed dying same day and year and I wondered what had happened. Bye for now and thankyou again.

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cynthia · Member

Hi Dennis and Jim, I found this in my travels. Could you both glance thru it. I think there are a couple items that might be of interest, not sure. hmm

Denpat55 · Senior Member

Cynthia, I was unable to open Hugh Wilson Patrick link I will check it out at home to see if I can open it there.

The other two links I was able to open I did not see your John Patrick B. 1803 there.

They did have John Patrick B. 1429, they had him Married to Margaret Montgomery that is incorrect. Not all the info on the internet is correct. Search Dr. Lee Wellington Patrick of Fairway, Kansas. Dr. Patrick’s records are the result of his study and research of the Scottish archives and are documented in his book Patrick in Retrospect published in 1993. Some of his research is on the internet.

MacPatrick · Senior Member

I also noticed the error on Margaret Montgomery, I think I am the guilty party who posted it there, but now know it is incorrect, but I don't know how to get rid of it.

cynthia · Member

Who was John Patrick b. 1429 married to ...?

Denpat55 · Senior Member

Cynthia, Here is the info I have on John Patrick B. 1429. As for his wife name none have check out yet still unknown.

Early records show he was a Notary, a person who could read and write. I have been told by native of Scotland that a Notary was a papal office of the Catholic Church.
Ref. Patrick in Retrospect by Dr. Lee Wellington Patrick

I still have been unable to open the file on Hugh Wilson Patrick.

cynthia · Member

Is Dr. L.W. Patricks book available at libraries or online reading? Searching his work I found mostly others using his works as a resource. I will keep looking.
     I finally found messages left by Dennis Robinson, I believe that his g. grandfather or grandfather was one of John Patrick's b.1836 in Smyth Co died 1921 in Lamar, Co. What struck me reading his post was he said John Patrick died in 1919, my records do not show that.
     What was interesting was that he said that 4 of John Patricks sons stayed in Missouri instead of following their father to Colorado. My g.g father went with him to Co., .
I also noted he had posted in 1998 on ancestry.com, his email address was listed as d_f_r@msn.com When I tried to send him an email it did not go through. Is there anyway I can go about finding his email now. When I was emailing him 2 or 3 years ago that was the email I sent him messages to.
     I know he said he had done extensive research on the Patrick line because the Robinsons were related to the Patricks and had come over together on the ship the Amity and even left VA. with them and onto Missouri .
     I am going to use a huge piece of paper to do an extensive tree because I have gotten new stories recently and also a email address for a ggg granddaughter of John Patrick's who lives in W.V. her name is Patti. I will update you with what I find.
     Is there any free software out there for doing family trees?
    I am really curious about something. Who was Wilson Patrick(m. Rutha Witt) dad?, this would be the father of John Patrick b. 1836
   Can you two give me some different ideas of how to do a family tree.
I am not using backup on my computer because it does not have much memory, RAM? so I did not want to do the work on my computer however I would like to share what I do eventually even if it means paper,type and copy machine and the US mail.

Denpat55 · Senior Member

Cynthia I have my family tree on geni.com and ancestry.com. I don’t pay for them on ether site; you can put your tree on there for free. But if you don’t pay you can’t do research there.

I like geni.com it is easier to share with friends and family. All my family can see the family tree there. I have MacPatrick as a friend and he can see my family tree and I can see his. And when he has his tree done to Robert Patrick B. 1705 we can link both trees together.

My g-grandfather Samuel John Patrick B. 8/19/1863 was born Putnam County, Missouri. He moved to Colorado and lived there for some time, Died in Vancouver Washington 11/28/1944. From what you said in your post they mite of know each other, maybe 1st or 2nd cousin.

cynthia · Member

I am sure we are all related. I have yet to write all this info down and post it on geni.com. I am a bit overwhelmed at the moment, however, I did find out that Hezekiah Patrick 1766-1847 m. to Mary Harrell 1768-1859 gave birth to a Wilson Patrick in 1813. Wilson Patrick married once maybe twice(not sure yet) but he had many children, among one of them was my g.g. grandfather John Patrick(1836-1919). What I wanted you both to know was that Wilson Patrick it says died in Estill, Kentucky December 1860. Dennis I am 50 years old so what is g. or gg. or ggg. might be different for the both of us. However, I am certain we are related. And just wanted to ask were the borders of the states of Virginia, West Virginia, and Kentucy change at some point in our country's history? And if they were when?

MacPatrick · Senior Member

Present day Kentucky, West Virginia and Virginia were all one state known as Virginia. Kentucky became a state in the late 1700's West Virginia became a state about 1860.

Denpat55 · Senior Member

Hi Cynthia, I have in my family tree Hezekiah Patrick as my fourth great uncle married to Mary Harrell His brother Robert Patrick B. 1765 is my Third GGrandfather. So it looks like we are cousin. I am 55 so we are close to the same age.
Your Patrick tree now go’s back to John Patrick B. 1429.

cynthia · Member

Thats Great! It get kind of confusing trying to keep all this straight... for me I am really want to put it in order in front me. G. GG. GGG. GGGG. GGGGG GGGGREAT... I am just being silly. I have collected lots of little notes so far., it is turning out to big the big picture. Bye for now.

MacPatrick · Senior Member

It's great to make contact with another Patrick cousin.

The Patrick's are gathering in the town square and heading down to the pub to give cousin Cynthia a proper welcome and introduce her to the rest of the family.

We'll try our best to behave ! biggrin

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Luckey · Michigan State Commissioner - CLSNA

MacPatrick wrote:

We'll try our best to behave !

Patricks? Behave? Yea, riiiight.

Knockdow · Guru

Luckey wrote:
Patricks? Behave? Yea, riiiight.

But Jim...if they didn't behave could the other three of us stop them??

MacPatrick · Senior Member

Knockdow wrote:

But Jim...if they didn't behave could the other three of us stop them??

Well, I hadn't really stopped to think about that.

It looks like the Turners may be on the way to a strong representation here.

Maybe you will be able to get them to help the rest of you guys maintainin the peace and tranquility.

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Luckey · Michigan State Commissioner - CLSNA

Knockdow wrote:

Luckey wrote:
Patricks? Behave? Yea, riiiight.

But Jim...if they didn't behave could the other three of us stop them??

True, true. Which reminds me, it's time for the annual not-a-Patrick meeting. I've reserved an umbrella and four folding chairs. Four instead of three because I'm in a positive mood today.

Denpat55 · Senior Member

Cynthia I sent you a private message about Geni.com

EoinDubh · Senior Member

I just saw several copies of Patrick in Retrospect on the abebooks.com website. Quite dear however --- starting at $325.

cynthia · Member

325.oo that is dear, dearly high for wee me.

To all that are interested to look I have started a family tree on geni.com. It is listed under Davis family. Thankyou Dennis for all your help getting it started. I tried to edit the Family name so anyone researching the Patrick line could find the information. Can they anyhoo?

MacPatrick · Senior Member

Yes, I agree that $ 300 + is a bit steep, that's why I don't already have the book.

I would like to participate in the family tree building process on geni, how can I assist?

cynthia · Member

Well this has been slow going for me. Jim so far I do not need any help, if I do I will be sure and ask all of you. I am finding it almost critical to have a printer set up. I have a new one still in the box but need to make room for it. I have been remodeling some rooms and things are a bit chaotic and dusty, saw dust here and there. However, I am making progress and when space allows the printer will be plugged in and running. I tried doing what I could on Geni.com, listed my family under the Davis name, with Patricks pretty much in the lead. I do not have much on my father's side yet..... Thanks Dennis with your assistance, it has been a great help. Will be in touch soon. I have been keeping track of crucial info. by saving in email folders so far so that I could go back to it when the printer is up and running. Will save me a ton of writing, hopefully.

mapatrick · Newbie

please check out my websight. i believe you can see everything.

I also believe, Dennis, you may be a relative of mine.

http://www.myheritage.com/site-117644091/matt-patricks-family-tree

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Denpat55 · Senior Member

Matt, welcome to the forum I went to your site, I see that you have the same John Patrick B. 1429 as my ancestor. I was unable to see your family tree. Not being a member of that site.

Luckey · Michigan State Commissioner - CLSNA

mapatrick,
A big welcome to the forum. I see you are already meeting your Patrick relatives. There are many of them here. I'm sure someone will invite you to the tavern shortly. Also, I made your website address a clickable link to make it easier for folks to access it. Have fun.

MacPatrick · Senior Member

Mapatrick,

Welcome to the forum Cousin Matt, I am a descendant of Jeremiah Patrick and Sarah Blair.

Thanks for posting the link to your family tree.

cynthialouise · Newbie

It has been quite some time since I have visited the site. Not forgotten, however had to re-register and instead of Cynthia(name already in use) I am using Cynthialouise. Reading from transcripts received through my grandmother's cousin(archives,SLC Utah, Tazewell Co., VA) GGJohn Patrick born 20 May 1836) Tazewell Co. or Smyth Co., VA in Tazewell, VA his wife listed as (sp.?) Margret Leedy. His father listed as Wilson Patrick(My GGG), his wife listed as (sp.?)Rutha Witt. My G.Henry Robert Patrick b.14 Oct 1868 in Tazewell, VA and his Wife Julia Catherine Ash.
Both my ggfather's John Patrick(b.1836) and my g.grandfather's, Henry Robert Patrick's graves and their families are in Lamar, Co. I last visited back in about 2006. To the best of my knowledge, (do not know what year Patrick's and Robinson's left the Tazewell area and headed west but they did indeed reside in Missouri because that is where my greatgrandfather married his bride and there are many References in the records of Stone Co., MO being a place of residence. But there is a census one can find that the Patricks and Robinson's also were counted at Fort Leavenworth, KS(do not know if they were actually residing there or ?)...Census for that time is very interesting reading. When I find it again I will most definitely make a copy. Evidently, many at the time were offered land grants in different parts of the country and so I suppose would explain my part of the Patricks choosing to go to Colorado. Here I am guessing. Anyway, not always, but when I make the time to do research I do find events that really do surprise me! My sister has shown an interest to join me in my research. Well nice to stop in and see all. Take care.

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