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Hi Danneil

Welcome to the forum. I live in Dunoon and I think it's rained here every day for 10 days or so, so you'd feel very much at home here.

Are you interested in DNA? If you or any male relative of yours is descended from the male line of Bourdon, a DNA test would be very interesting.

Best

Sandy

I have some cousins that are direct male lines of Bourdon's however I doubt I could ever talk them into a DNA test.

-rob

LADY HAWK wrote:

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Hi George:

I just signed back up to Lamont Clan with David and James, at the Highland Festival in Arlington, Tx on June 4th.  Glad to be back in.   So, my question to you is how do I have any hope to find out my ancestry?  Help. 

Thanks, LADY HAWK (Terry Turner ...

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 Hi Terry thanks for joining back

I would work back a generation or two on your Turner line and come back down to find some living males. 2nd and 3rd cousins work just fine.

Bless you, George.  I just remembered that I have a great uncle, brother to my grandfather, and he has a son.  I have not seen them for many years.  Hopefully I can get some help from them.  Preferably from my great uncle since he would be direct to my grandfther and father.  Have a Blessed Day.

LADY HAWK

Would it do any good to get dna from a female in the direct line? My grandmother who is in here 90's is a Burden (maiden), she has really got into this genealogy stuff since I started. It might take some time, but I think I could get her to do it. We're basically country folk and we take a while to accept new things.

God bless,

-rob

Rob,

  I am Richard Barden, I am a descendant of William Barden (Burden) a covenant servant to Thomas Boardman, and brought to the Colonies (U.S.) in 1638.  I have been looking for William's trace back to "The Old Country" but have not been able to.  When you mentioned your line, it gave me some hope that you might be able to link my William to maybe your William or even his son John.

  Other information on William Barden:

Born 1624, place of birth is unknown, possibly England, Father is unknown

died 1692/3 Middleboro, MA, U.S.A.

  As you can see I have a lot of blanks, and have not been able to fill them in.  Welcome to the Forum, and the Clan.  A lot of nice people here.

Richard I assume you've never see the story excerpt that tells how he was born in and his family from Wharfe River Valley, Yorkshire, England (see attached) other info on him I have found thus far. He was mrrd to Deborah Barker in 1660 he was not a servant but an apprentice to learn carpentry from Thomas Boardman however shortly after he arrived in Mass. he transferred his apprenticship to John Barker of Marshfiled Mass. to learn bricklaying Dec. 1, 1638 for 6.5 yrs. Looks as if he and Deborah had possibly 14 children, if you want an image showing the others not listed in the attached image, let me know. If you want you can email me at rddavis1@hughes.net so that we don't fill up the board talking about this. I have found when I cannot find info on people it is usually because I have the wrong info somewhere.

Hope this helps and God bless,

-rob

P.S. there's also some pictues of his house in Mass. if you want me to obtain copies of those for you.

P.S.S from Feet of Fines of the Tudor period [Yorks]: part 1: 1486-1571(Yorkshire) British History online (have to have subscription to view)

from Parish of Merrington (britishhistoryonline)

But it must be remembered, that the descent of a portion only of the estate has been traced as derived from Humphrey and Edward Blakiston. An integral half of the manor descended from John Blakiston, Esq. to his son Sir William, who in 1613 (fn. 79) (with Dame Alice his wife and Thomas Blakiston his son and heir,) conveyed this portion to Marmaduke Wilde, of Hunton, in Yorkshire, Esq. In 1633 John Wilde, Esq. died seised of [the manor of Ketton] and half of Great Chilton, which estates he had settled by Ind. 14 Oct. 1632 [with his manors of Hunton and Barden in Yorkshire,] on his three nephews Robert, John, and Christopher, sons of Robert Wilde, of East Cowton, in successive tail male (fn. 80) . In 1641 Robert Wilde, of Hunton, Esq. died seised of half the manor of Great Chilton, leaving two infant daughters his coheirs, Dorothy, aged one year and ten months, and Isabel, aged nine months. These coheirs sold to the wealthy family of Milbanke; and in 1798 Edward Milbanke, Esq. conveyed to Christopher Mason and the Rev. Robert Waugh. The purchase was divided; the larger portion rests with C. Mason, Esq.; and a farm, called Kay's-hill, was sold by Waugh to Sir H. V. Tempest.

from Parishes Hauxwell, A History of the County of York North Riding: Volume 1

(I'll have to send you this one from email, it is quite long and has all kinds of info about the Barden and the Barden township in Yorkshire)

It looks as if there is quite a bit of info on the Barden's of Yorkshire on britishhistoryonline, http://www.british-history.ac.uk/

While I by no means mind getting the info for you, I think it would be worth your while to sign up for a subscription for a year. It is only about 50$ and I think once you start finding out all the info you can gain there you'll want one for yourself.

email me and I'll start sending you what I have found thus far.

Richard, you'll also want to look up "Barden Tower and priest house" and Wharfedale, Yorkshire, England

-rob

P.S. I'm also seeing a George Barden son of William born 20 Apr 1619 - Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England, Newcastle on Tyne isn't that far from Barden Yorkshire. I haven't yet figured out exactly where the Wharfe River Valley is. According to wikipedia River Wharfe much of it's length is the divider between West and North Yorkshire.

I also have a Henry son of Barnard Barden baptized 17 Jun 1599, in Farnham, Yorks. recorded as

-- Edited by rddavis1 on Friday 10th of June 2011 12:51:33 PM

Hi Rob

If the book you've ordered is 'The Lamont Clan, 1235-1935' by Hector McKechnie, then yes, the book contains information about the Lamont link to Bourdon. It also mentions that Bourdon is the ancestor of the Earls of Strathmore and that Queen Elizabeth II descends from them. It doesn't give details of that descent though.

However, I'm pretty certain it's well-documented, and should be quite easy to find.

I have the Lamont book in CD format, so it's easily searchable. Once you've received the book, let me know and I'll check which pages contain the information.

Best

Sandy