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David wrote:

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I actually have a section of a large Patton compendium entitled,"Descendants of James and Florence [Graham] Patton of Floyd County Kentucky" but I would love to get my hands on the Patrick books you're talking about. How do you get these? I have to add them to my library.

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David,

You can order these books from the Magoffin County Historical Society, you can find this by doing a google search.  There is a newsletter on their website authored by Todd Preston, his newsletter is a treasure trove of Patrick information and information on the other families who lived in the area.  I beleive he is a Patrick descendant.  The books are not fancy as they are a budget effort by the Society, they are available almost at the cost of reproduction.  I think I paid less than $40.00 for the three books. There is a treasure trove of pictures and transcipts of documents of the family.

You will find information on the Reins family.  The other families from Magoffin County that are of interest to me are the Mays, Adams, Caudills and Blairs. Todd Preston has spent a huge amount of time finding and preserving cemeteries and tombstones.  You will find the site very interesting reading.

 

It's official !

Jim, David and James are indeed related. We are all descendants of Jeremiah Patrick and Sarah "Sally" Blair. This is cool, It only took a couple of posts to find this information.

It appears your records may be correct I have omitted a generation, 60 years is a pretty good gap between generations, 30 is about average. I've checked my records, I do have an error, I must correct that.

I have transcriptions of some of the records of the Jeremiah Patrick family, court actions, wills and land records. I have some information on the Blair's. I also have the three books on The Patrick Family of Eastern Kentucky published by the Magoffin Historical Society. The books have loads of information, transcripts of records, and deeds. There are a lot of pictures in the books including pictures of some Patton families.


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It's official! We are related!

Everything is virtually identical with a few exceptions. I'll note those below but here is where we split . . .

Jeremiah Patrick:  b. 1738 in Russell County Virginia, he married Sarah (Sally) Blair in 1760 in Harrisonburg, Rockingham County Virginia. He died in 1822 in Floyd County, now Magoffin County, Kentucky.

Children:        William, Jeremiah Jr., Jackson (John), Brice, Thomas K., Elias, Maston, Polly, Gerusia, Rutha, Sarah, Louisa, Nancy and Margaretta

I am a descendant of William Patrick who you have listed above under Jeremiah's children. I have all the same children listed in my documents.

Back to the beginning and I have to apologize because I swear I had this back to the 1200's but maybe I was drinking at the time. I have slightly different information than you so let's compare.

John of Ayrshire Patric - Birth 1429, Scotland ?
Son - John

John of Ayrshire Patrick - Birth 1460, Scotland ?
Son - William

William Patrick - Birth 1495, Scotland?
Son - John

John Patrick - Birth 1530, Scotland ?
Sons - Hew (Hugh), Robert, James, John, Alexander

I seem to have an extra John in 1530 who is the father of the sons you have listed as William' 1495.

I have other varying information in my records as well but it's clear that we are from the same line. I knew there was a reason we got along so well!

Shall I post everything I have?

John Patrick b. 1742 d. abt 1805 was a signer of the Bush Declaration in 1775.


John Patrick [b. 1742, Lancaster Co., PA - d. bef. 10 Oct 1805, Baltimore Co. MD] John's (the signer) parents were Hugh Patrick (b. 1708, Edinburgh, Scotland - d. 1778, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania) currently his mother's name is unknown. His parental grandparents were Hugh Patrick and Mary Campbell of Edinburgh, Scotland. John (the Signer) married Elizabeth Cummings (d. 1786) on 11 March 1765 in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. His Children were John, Mary (b. 12 Jul 1775, m. Basil Brook), Elizabeth (b. 12 Jul 1775, twin of Mary, m. Joshua Harvey), Martha (b. 1780, m. William Thomas) and Samuel Cummings (m. Mary Kipp), Hugh (m. Nancy Gill), Ann (m. Joshua Wilkinson).

This information is from www.bushdeclaration.org


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Our Patrick ancestors have been represented in the history of Scotland, Virginia and Kentucky since around 1400.  They have been well documented by several reasearchers, the most notable being the late Dr. Lee Wellington Patrick of Fairway, Kansas.  Dr. Patrick’s records are the result of his study and research of the Scottish archives and are documented in his book Patrick in Retrospect published in 1993. 

The Patricks are most certainly descendants of The MacPhadrick Lamonts of Couston, this family is a cadet family of Clan Lamont, their history is documented in Hector McKechnie’s Book The Lamont Clan 1235-1935. The MacPhadrick lands of about 280 imperial acres are found near the present day town of Couston located on Loch Striven in Cowal adjacent to those of the Lamonts.  Clan Lamont is well documented in charters executed with their neighbors the Campbells.  The Campbells were noted for their efficient recordkeeping.  A vast amount of Clan Lamont history is preserved in the records of Clan Campbell. 

There are several variations of the name Patrick, surnames were not fixed or passed from generation to generation as we know them today.  A passage in McKechnie’s book points this out.  “The first entry in the surviving register of Baptisms (beginning in 1735) is of a son Archibald to Hugh Patrick in Couston, who later appears as Hugh McPhatrick.  Other variations are Mcffathrick and Gilpatrick.  That same Archibald married in 1736 under the name McGilpharich, and a Hugh Lamont was ferrier at Couston in 1753.”[1]

How little fixed were the clan surnames is brought out by the following letter to an inquirer from the Session Clerk of Inverchaolain in 1830.  “As to the sirname [sic] Lamont & Patrick or McPhatrick which is all the same,” it narrates, “ As of the sirname [sic] they go by the two names in common in our parish to this day, and your father’s extract is a plain proof of this fact, the introductory margin of the register bearing the name Lamont while the body bears the name Mcfadrick.”[2]

 The early Patricks in Scotland were Catholics. The Patricks became early converts to the Protestant religion and joined the reformers under the Earl of Glencairn, some of them accompanied the expedition to the north of Ireland under Hugh Montmorency of Broadstone, afterwards Viscount of Ardes, who as expressed in his patent from James VI brought a colony of Scots into Clandebara and Ardes, toward the increase of that religion settled in that county where their descendants still possess property near Berry.[3]

Our direct Patrick Lineage is as follows:

John Patrick (or Patric):   b. 1429 in Ayrshire, Scotland, early records show he was a Notary, a person who could read and write.  I have been told by a native of Scotland that a Notary was a papal office of the Catholic Church.

John Patrick:  b. 1460 in Ayrshire Scotland

William Patrick:  b. 1495 in Ayrshire, Scotland, d. 1549 in Edinburgh, Scotland

            Sons:   Hew (Hugh), Robert, James, John b. 1530 d. 1638 in Edinburgh, Scotland and Alexander

John Patrick, b. 1530 d. 1638 son of William Patrick, who obtained a grant of the lands of Overmain, near Kilwinning, from the monastery, aquired by charter in 1605, the estate of Byres in Ayrshire and subsequently part of the lands of Dalgarven. He died in 1638 leaving five sons James, Robert, Hew, John and Alexander.[4]

James Patrick:  b. 1552 in Edinburgh. Scotland, he married Agnes Finley b. 1557,

Sons: Thomas, Hugh, John, James, Robert and William

Thomas Kilpatrick:  b. 1580

John Kilpatrick:  b. 1605, he married Agnes Dockson in 1628, she was b. 1612 d. abt 1669

            Sons:   James and Robert

Robert Patrick:  b. 1635 in Edinburgh, Scotland, he married Susannah Harris

            Son:     Hugh H.

Hugh H. Patrick:   b. 1678 in Edinburgh, Scotland, he married Mary Campbell on November 24, 1704; she was the daughter of Sheriff Walter Campbell,[5] son of Archibald Campbell.  Some genealogies show Mary to be the daughter of Sheriff Walter Campbell of Skipness, the Clan Campbell Society of North American has verified that our Mary was not his daughter.

            Sons:   Robert, Hugh, William and John

Robert Patrick:  b. 1705 in Edinburgh, Scotland, he immigrated to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on August 25, 1725 along with brothers Hugh, William and John.  He married Elizabeth in 1728 at Cumberland, Pennsylvania.  He died in 1758 in Frederick County, Maryland.

Children:        James b. 1729, Hugh b. 1732 d. 1814, William b. 1734 d. 1818, John b. 1736, Elizabeth b. 1737, Jeremiah b. 1738

Jeremiah Patrick:  b. 1738 in Russell County Virginia, he married Sarah (Sally) Blair in 1760 in Harrisonburg, Rockingham County Virginia. He died in 1822 in Floyd County, now Magoffin County, Kentucky.

Children:        William, Jeremiah Jr., Jackson (John), Brice, Thomas K., Elias, Maston, Polly, Gerusia, Rutha, Sarah, Louisa, Nancy and Margaretta

Margaretta Patrick:  b. September 2, 1783 in Russell County Virginia, she married Caleb May in 1801 in Floyd County now Magoffin County Kentucky, she died December 5, 1861 in Magoffin County Kentucky.

Children:        John b. 1803 d. 1865, William b. 1804, David b. 1806, Blair b. 1808 d. 1855, James b. 1811 d. 1890, Margaret b. 1813 d. 1870, Samuel L. b. 1815, d. 1885, Sarah b. 1820 d. 1891, Caleb  b. 1823 d. 1880

Blair May:  b. November 15, 1808 in Russell County Virginia, he married Sarah Adams, he died on October 23, 1858 in Floyd County, now Magoffin County Kentucky

Rebecca Emaline May:  b. February 19, 1850, she married William Sexton, She died on November 9, 1925 in Carlisle, Kentucky.

            Children:        Annie, Nannie, Lily May, Bruce

Lily May Sexton:  b. 1877 in Menifee County Kentucky,  she married Richard Thomas Lovelace, she died in 1961 at Middletown, Butler County Ohio.

Children:        William Hobert, Samuel Strother, Lester Clair d. 1930, James Leonard b. 1910 d. 1999

James Leonard Lovelace:  b. September 4, 1910 in Stillwell Kansas, d. April 1, 1999

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