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Wendy, in spite of what these reprobates say I would like to welcome you most warmly to our humble forum.  You'll learn many things here about your magnificent Patrick ancestors. 

If you have read very many posts you may have noticed we also like to have a little fun too!  Of course if the fun goes on very long, we non-Patricks in the group sometimes need to 'splain things to the Patricks because they have such a short attention span.  The poor louts also have a fairly limited vocabulary.  We feel bad for them. 

Of course Wendy, we don't include you in the above mentioned group...yet.  furious

Have fun and may your posts be better than the average Patrick's - easy peasy.  biggrin


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Welcome Wendy

This forum is a good source of info.

Magoffin County Historical Society http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kymhs/index.htm They have some books on the Patrick’s from Kentucky.

Dr. Lee Wellington Patrick of Fairway, Kansas. Patrick in Retrospect published in 1993. Dr. Lee Patrick book is out of print. I have been looking for his book my self.


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Welcome Cousin Wendy,

We are so happy to have you wih us here on the Patrick Forum, our family does indeed have Scottish roots, we're all proud of our Patrick ancestors, we do know for sure that we are blood Lamonts.

If you will look at some of the earlier posts in this thread you will find a lot of genealogical information on our family. Please ask you have any specific questions about our family, please ask, we are always happy to share the information.  I have transcriptions of some early deeds and court records about Jeremiah and his family.

You may be interested to know that you are also descended from Clans Blair and Campbell.

These guys are going to be all over me for even mentioning the Campbells.  So I must run and hide from George and Luckey.  ashamed

-- Edited by MacPatrick on Wednesday 23rd of December 2009 08:52:41 PM

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You may be interested to know that you are also descended from Clans Blair and Campbell.

These guys are going to be all over me for even mentioning the Campbells.  So I must run and hide from George and Luckey.  ashamed

omfg.gif  What the...jawdrop.gif

 



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Hello fellow Patrick's, I am also from the Magoffin County,Kentucky Patrick's. I presently live in Northern Indiana, where there is a large branch. I have traced my linage back to John Patrick in Scotland also. Looks as though there are lots of us. Does anyone have a copy of Dr. Lee Wellington Patrick's book? Does anyone know who published it? It looks to me as there my be need for a reprint.
On a another note, I am taking a little vacation down to Salyersville, Kentucky next week. I plan to take a digital camera and take pictures of grave sites and anything else that is of interest. Also plan to wander through Virginia. Does anyone have any points of interest to Patrick family history that you think I should see? Let me know. I will be leaving April 5,2010 through the 9th. I am glad I found this wonderful forum, full of wonderful Patrick's!

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Welcome Monty,

We are glad you found us too! Let me preface this statement by saying I do not have an answer to either request. no I just wanted to welcome another Patrick. I'm sure that Jim may have some answers for you though. I still have relatives in the area and have yet to make a trip so I'm curious to hear how your trip goes.

There is definetely a demand albeit small for a reprint of Dr. Lee's book. Don't know how many these guys have available but . . .

PATRICK IN RETROSPECT by Dr. Lee Wellington Patrick. Private Printing, 1993. 1st Ed. Fine/No Jacket. Hardcover.
Family history traces the ancestors and descendants of Hugh Patrick (born 1678) and his wife Mary CAMPBELL, focusing on their four sons (Robert, Hugh, William and John) who moved to America circa 1726. Also includes list of Patricks found on federal censuses 1790 through 1840, some miscellaneous Patrick marriages and information. Of interest to anyone researching the Patrick surname. Index. 336 pp. $75.00 plus $3.00 shipping

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I have a call into them to see how many (if any) copies they might have. I'll post here when I get an answer.



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No copies. She had one a couple years ago and since then has gotten tons of calls about it. She did say she wished she did have them with all the inquiries.

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Hi Monty,

Welcome to the forum, we are very happy you found us.  It's great to have another Patrick cousin join us.  We hope you enjoy the time you spend here.

If I were going to Salyersville my first stop wopuld be at the Magoffin County Historical Society http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kymhs/index.htm.  Todd Preston is President of the Society and knows the location of all the family cemeteries in the area and is a fantastic resource on the history of the area and the area families.  He may also be a Patrick cousin.

This is a trip I am planning to take in the near future,maybe not this year, but next year for sure.  I know you will enjoy your trip.

The publication of another edition of Dr. Patrick's book would be an excellent project for the Magoffin County Historical Society.  I would love to have a copy of this book.

Again, Welcome


 

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Hi,

I have read through the posts here, but I don't know anything beyond my GGGG Grandfather Hugh Patrick born circa 1780, who married Mary Beggs. I presume they had more than one child, but so far I only know about their daughter, Margaret, born 7th June 1815. They lived in Ayrshire, Scotland, where she married James Stevenson. They had several children, the youngest of whom, she named after her father. I have yet to find siblings, but presume she would have had a few.

Margaret and James emigrated to Australia, arriving 2nd July 1857, the youngest Hugh, having been born on board. At the time, Margaret stated that her father had died, her mother was still living.

I think I may have some other information possibly, have to go through my files, but don't think it was too much more than what I've said here.

Lesa

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Hi Lesa,

Thanks for contributing your Patrick info to our forum. It's all getting interesting enough that we may have to formalize all of this and start a Patrick/Lamont research project like George's site.

Welcome to the forum!

David

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Monty,

How did your trip to Salyersville go?

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 I see it has been a while since any posts on this forum. I hope I find all of you doing well. I enjoyed reading your posts on the Patrick family. I am also a descendent of the same Patricks as the rest of you. Though while most of you descend from Jeremiah Patrick of 1738 I descend from his brother William born 1734. I am interested in learning more about our history.aww

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My line comes from the same line as you; here is my line of Patricks from William.
William 1734, Robert 1765, John 1803, Samuel 1863, Albert 1895, Dean 1924 and me Dennis.


-- Edited by Denpat55 on Monday 19th of July 2010 01:20:31 PM

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Mine is William 1734, Hezikiah 1760, Isaac Leander 1798, Harvey George 1819, James Harvey 1858, Leonard Hardin 1889, Stephen Clayton 1948, and then me Stephanie biggrin.

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Hello Cousin Stephanie,

Welcome to the Forum, we are happy to have you here.  I am a descendant of Jeremiah Patrick.





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Hello Cousins,

I am so glad that I found all of you. Family history is a new obsession for me, but something that my parents have been doing for a while. It has become really fun since I do love a good mystery.
I have been researching every angle I can think of with my limited resources to find out what I can about our earliest ancestor John Patrick of Ayrshire Scotland of 1429. What I came up with is that he may have been married to a Margaret Montgomery. She was born 1436 in Ayrshire and died 30 may 1493 in Renfrewshire, Sco. I have taken the Montgomery's back to a Sir John de Montgomery b.1244 Eaglesham, Iverness, Sco. and his wife Janet Erskine b. 1280 in Erskine, Renfrewshire, Sco. Also Margaret Montgomery's Grandmother was a Margaret Maxwell of Clan Maxwell. Her father was Herbert Maxwell b.1366 at Caerlaverock Castle, Dumfries-shire, Sco. and his father was Robert Maxwell b.1340 also at Caerlaverock Castle. They both also died in that castle.

I hope you all find this information as fascinating as I do. :) I am still trying to verify this information. It is very difficult to do when you are dealing with the 15th century.

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Stephanie,

Please keep us posted on your research efforts,  you have evidently been bitten by the genealogy bug.  I was bitten years ago. 

Genealogy is very addictive, but it's fun isn't it?

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Stephanie,

I found it very interesting so I did a web search on Margaret Montgomery b. 1436. I found one family tree that had her married to John Patrick b. 1428 and other tree with her married to John Patrick b. 1428. Son of Sir Alan Stewart and Cathrine Seton.

I search the web for Stewart’s and Montgomery’s they both had Margaret Montgomery b. 1436 married to John Stewart b. 1428 and his line stayed Steward all the way to the present day. There lines are well documented with Mary Queen of the scot and other royal family members in it.

Are John Patrick / Patric was born in 1429 not 1428 I don’t think that are John Patrick was married to Margaret Montgomery. I think that some people would like to say that they come from nobility and try to tie there family trees to the royal family.



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Could you tell me where you found ur information so that I can see? I would like to verify for myself to ease my mind :) then 8 can continue my search else where.


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Here are some of the sites. Familysearch.org, awt.ancestrylibray.com, familytreemaker.genealogy.com And I would go to Google.com put there name birthday and search from there. Here is a sample of what I found.
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/l/u/m/Robert-W-Lumpkin/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0445.html
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~elessar5/pafg1371.htm#197747



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There is a huge amount of information out there on the internet, some of it is correct, some of it isn't.  A lot of this (mis)information gets copied over and over again.  It is very important to look at the sources of the information.

The genealogical information on the titled families is very carefully maintained because in some cases there are a lot of things at stake, including land.  Most all of the titled lines are listed in "Burke's Peerage" which is usually correct.

I have also seen this information and like Dennis, I don't think it is correct.



-- Edited by MacPatrick on Friday 23rd of July 2010 07:40:06 AM

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It was familysearch.org that I had found the information. I have looked further and found the same information as Dennis on John Stewart. It is a little disheartening, but I won't give up the search. Thank you all for your help in clearing up the confusion.

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Stephanie, I like the research that you are doing on John Patrick (or Patric): b. 1429 in Ayrshire, Scotland. Here is another site that mite help you, right now they have info back to 1513 but they mite add more years in the future, they have all sort of official data there on the Scottish people, and it’s not free. Here is what they charge.
The surname search on the Homepage is free and covers all records, allowing you to check how many records of a particular surname appear in the various datasets, before you commit to payment.

Access to the wills and testaments index and the coats of arms index is free of charge. Viewing full-colour, digital images of an original will, testament or inventory costs 5GBP per document, regardless of length. Viewing a full-colour, digital images of a coat of arms costs 10GBP per document, regardless of length.

Access to statutory, OPR, Catholic parish register and census indexes costs 6GBP. For this fee, you will receive 30 "page credits" which are valid for 90 consecutive days. Viewing a page of index results costs 1 credit and each page will contain up to 25 search results. Viewing an image costs 5 credits (equivalent to 1GBP). Your session begins when payment has been authorised and additional credits may be purchased in 6GBP increments. The session will restart with each new credit purchase.

The official government source of genealogical data for Scotland

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My ancestors surname Patrick arrived with relatives who are named Robinson from Aryrshire, Scotland in America in 1725 stayed in Maryland and PA. and the Patrick and probably the Robinsons also settled in Tazewell, Virginia and eventually(My great, great grandfather patrick, his wife and 13 children headed west with the Robinson relatives, one recent Robinson descendant told me his family resided and stayed in MO. then on to texas. However, the early census record show my great, great grandfather and family along with the Robinsons were residents of Fort Leavenworth, KS. for awhile. I know that my great grandfather patrick married a Ashe from MO. lived there for awhile had a couple of children but returned to Lamar, Co. when his father had a homestead. Does any of this ring a bell to anyone reading this? I do have names dates of deaths births and who married who for some time back wish I could find all this now. I do know you can look online at the old cementary listings for Tazewell, VA.   

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Cymthia,

Welcome to the forum, we hope you enjoy the time you spend here.

Please start a new thread in Patrick Family Sept section and provide us with your Patrick family lineage, this will make it easier for others to find the information

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Hello Jim, i really did not have to do much research to trace my descendant to Hugh Patrick and Mary Campbell. It was fun, tedious and interesting and I have made acquaintance with a couple of relatives, one a bit closer than the other. I will post my family tree on geni.com shortly. Thanks

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Hi David,
 I am a new Patrick member to the site (let the innauguration begin :)
 My mother is a Patrick and I have traced our family from Ardrossan, Scotland in 1777 to Canada in the 1920's. So through research we are not directly 'related' to the Virginia or Kentucky Patricks but the earliest Patrick related to me is John Patrick of Irvine, North Ayshire (I am assuming his birth is sometime between 1737 & 1751 - being between 40 yrs to 16 yrs when he married) to Margaret Russell of "Mollabyrne" (?) on Nov 1st 1777 with the last thing being written on the marriage certificate - "Willaborne of Daby" (?)

 The marriage record is very, very, very hard to read so the names within "quotations" above are only my assumptions. My hope was to upload the actual record (hopefully can do that soon..) in case you had any insight into this John Patrick and Margaret. They went onto Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire, where I can find the next record for them in 1781 having a child, Thomas Patrick (my gggg grandfather).

My hope is to find out more about the Patricks (specifically about John Patrick and his parents, if possible) before 1777 in Northern Ayrshire. And with looking at the group you have started hopefully someone can help?!

Thanks very much!! Kristen

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welcome to the the forum Kristen

it still amazes me the number of Patricks that find us. I am thinking of getting adopted so I can join the swelling Patrick ranks.



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Kirsten,

Welcome to the forum, it's great to have another Patrick among us.

It will be interesting to see how these Patrick lines fit together.  Please feel free to upload any information you can share with us.

We are truly becoming "Patrick Central".

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Hi George & Jim, Thanks for the welcome.
I have attached two files (hopefully you will be able to view them!) The first is a magnified view of John Patricks marriage certificate from Nov, 1777. He married Margaret Russell in Ardrossan, Northern Ayrshire.

The second image is a screen capture of the birth options and parents for John Patrick in Ayr anywhere between 1741 and 1761. My guess is he married anywhere between the ages of 40 to 16 so it would place his birth between these two time periods. Most of my research has been done on Scotlands People with the help of Ancestry.co.uk.

I am hoping my search for the Patricks doesn't end there and hoping to find out who John's parents were.  As he is the earliest of my Patricks that I can find.

A brief history may be helpful:
The family moved onto Lanarkshire Scotland for some reason by 1781 where they had there next child Thomas Patrick.

Thomas married Anne Birrel and had a son James born 1813 in Logie Fife.

James married Christina Kinnes and had a son William born 1847 in Auchtermuchty Fife.

William married Isabella Donald and had a son James born 1880 in Bothwell Lanarkshire.

This is my great grandfather James Patrick who moved to Ontario Canada in 1929 from "South Inch" farm in Bathgate Scotland.

My Patricks had a history of moving quite a bit! But Im hoping they did originate from Northern Ayrshire and are connected to all the great history you and your members have researched.

Thanks foryour help!
Kristen

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On further looking at John's marriage record the last thing written is: "married at Dalry" not "Willaborne of Daby" (?)" which I had written in my original post! Getting a little better at reading old handwriting if nothing else!


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hi my names tommy im from scotland my 3 times great grandad waswilliam patrick born1797 in hamilton scotalnd to alexander patrick and marion marshal / also i have other patricks in hamilton if i can be off any help please dont hesitate to e mail me .thomas

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Kirsten & Thomas, It’s great to see more Patrick’s on the forum. Keep up your research & post what you fine here. Kirsten I check out your info & check my tree to see if I had any links but found none.

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Thanks for checking Dennis! I have a feeling they are a bit elusive...

 Have managed since to narrow it down to #'s 1-4 for John Patrick's parents (in the search record I posted earlier) based on his wife Margarets birth date.

 It is an ongoing quest to find the history of my Patricks...will see what comes of it, and let you all know!

Sincerely, Kristen

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Hi, Tommy, welcome. And the first thing that came to my mind was pictures, it is great you have found this website, I am quite certain that the others will be in touch with you. I am just getting started on my research. It helped me a lot to read the other posts in here to get an idea of where do go with my research. And of course I am really hoping some day to meet all of you. That would be a highlight of my life! Please keep posting tell us more about yourself and where you live.

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Mike and Dennis,l.... Does this mean that there were other sons that did not make the trip to America? In regards to Kris's post I mean?

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Tommy,

Welcome we are very happy you decided to join us, any and all information is appreciated.  Please feel free to post and share any inoformation you can.

Quite possibly all of the Patrick's from Ayr are related, I'm sure there are thousands of descendants of this Patrick line scattered around the world.



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Hello all,

I have to say I'm amazed by the amount of information shared on here that's allowed me to trace a group of my ancestors waaaaaay back, and I didn't even know I was related to a Scottish clan!

My line comes through Robert "Robin" Patrick, b. 1764, and his son George Washington, Sr. and his son George W, Jr..  He founded "Patrick Place", a 100 acre ranch in the middle of Texas that has been in my family since 1886!  His 2nd to youngest daughter is my great grandmother on my dad's mom's side.  And now my aunt owns the ranch.

So I guess that makes me a Patrick 3 times removed?  In any case, I think it's great being somehow related to such a lively bunch biggrin

Thanks all!
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Hi David and welcome!

We can always use another Patrick in the ranks. If you read through the posts here you probably realize that you are a member of the most powerful sept family of the Modern Clan Lamont. biggrin (This will cause a tsunami of jealous posts, David)

Seriously, we are glad to have helped and thats part of the reason we have encouraged people to posts their tree's.

Everyone is friendly so ask any questions you might have and we are glad to help!

So you are in Texas? So am I in the Dallas area. You?

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Hi (other) David,

I actually live in Seattle now.  I moved up here 9 years ago from Houston where I was born and raised.  In fact, there's another Patrick member who is the daughter of my great aunt I found out also living in Seattle!  Small world, huh?


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Oh cool. We have a strong community in the Seattle area. You need to get in touch with George who can fill you in on the happenings in your city. Funny because George just spent the week in Houston. He was supposed to fly back yesterday.

George! Where are you? Chime in here! smile

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Welcome to the forum, It's great to have another cousin participating in the fun.

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David wrote:

Hi David and welcome!

We can always use another Patrick in the ranks. If you read through the posts here you probably realize that you are a member of the most powerful sept family of the Modern Clan Lamont. biggrin (This will cause a tsunami of jealous posts, David)


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Hi David my great grandfather Samuel John Patrick lived in Washshington for some time before his death.
Birth: August 19, 1863
Putnam, Missouri, United States
Death: November 28, 1944 (81)
Vancover, Washington

Post some INFO of your famliy.

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DavidN wrote:

Hi (other) David,

I actually live in Seattle now.  I moved up here 9 years ago from Houston where I was born and raised.  In fact, there's another Patrick member who is the daughter of my great aunt I found out also living in Seattle!  Small world, huh?


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wow my Great Uncle Hubert Leroy Patrick Lived in Seattle

 



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Rollie Edwin Patrick Son OF Robert Lee Patrick andMa Mary anna or martha ann  Robert Edward Patrick sept 13 1908

Robert Lee Patrick son of Henry H. Paatrick and Foresnce P.  Patrick

His father was a Patrick that was married to a Smith.



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Hail Coustoun!

I've been very slow and have only now read your posting in detail. Can you tell us what you know about Neil McPhadrick, father of the 1711 immigrant? 

I think he (Neil) may well have been the 2nd last Baron McPhadrick of Coustoun, who succeeded the previous Baron in 1681. I've found a charter dated 30 May 1688 which reads

"...Cornelius and his heirs male, which failing, Robert and his heirs male, which failing, the heirs male of Neil Lamont..."

Cornelius was the last Baron, who sold up in 1700.

I suspect that I am descended from the same family, but the only way to determine this beyond doubt would be via DNA. I've already had mine tested and I have a  66/67 match with a Lamont from Palm Beach, Florida.

Unfortunately, the paper trail of the Palm Beach Lamont runs dry in Ireland in 1849.

So. Would you consider a DNA test? I'd be happy to fund it. 

As I type this, I'm looking out my study window and can see Inverkip on the opposite side of the Firth of Clyde. A John Patrick (Lamont) and Findwell Hunter registered the births of four of their children in Inverkip between 1710 and 1718. Two of the sons moved back to Cowal as adults, one (Hugh) to Coustoun and one (Archibald) to Stronyaraig, directly opposite Loch Striven to Coustoun. I'm descended from the one who lived in Stronyaraig.

So it's possible that we may be 1st cousins, 7 times removed, or something close to that.

Best

Sandy

 

 

 

 

  



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Sandy,

Thanks for posting the additional information. Every little bit of information is welcome.

 

Knockdow:  Are you posting the Patrick DNA results and lines on the Lamont-Young website or do we need to start a Patrick DNA thread here on Lamont Central?

 



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I don't have anybody in the Lamont study with the Patrick surname.



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