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Knockdow · Guru

Bourdon, Burdon

Kilted Carver · Senior Member

My links to Lamont come through my mothers parents ( My grand dad being a Berden ). My grandmother told me a little about the history and gave me some articles that go back to a Margaret Lamont in the early 1800s.
In the articles and from her words my mothers side also had strong ties to MacAlpine, Hamilton, and MacKenzie. So I guess that side is comparitive to a fine Scottish Haggis smile

Kilted Carver · Senior Member

My Grandmother is supposed to be sending me some old documents on the family. I can't wait.

Kilted Carver · Senior Member

Trying to find more info on a Edward or Edmond Berden who died in 1862 in St. Clair, MI. He supposedly was married or had relations with a Margret Sullivan from Ireland whose father ( supposedly) was a man called John Sullivan. I hit a brick wall on this part of the tree. Any suggestions on how to proceed?

Danniel · Newbie

I am probably part of this sept... on my mothers side. My grandmothers mother did a family tracing and found out we descend from a Burdon here in Sweden, and that he was of the noble family Burdon of fodel (most liklely Bourdon of feddal)(burdon of fodel is most likely the swedish spelling). His name was John or Johan Burdon. But that is all she managed to research.

Now I am wondering if anyone might know anything about this person that moved to sweden around 1620-1643 (he was made noble in Sweden 1643, so he probably move earlier), according to the research done, he moved to Sweden before/during the 30year war to train the swedish cavalery.

Knockdow · Guru

Daniel you might want to look into DNA testing after you have check your paper trail closer. Do you have a direct male to male connection back to these Burdons? if so the test would show you to have Celtic bloodline.

Danniel · Newbie

Sorry to say that our family died out 1701 but survived on the female side. So, I do not have direct male to male connection :(. But is it still possible to see by dna testing if I have a celtic bloodline?

Danniel · Newbie

This is the (translated by me) information from the swedish hall of nobles book of noble families (or something similar):

Noble family Bordon nr. 522
made swedish noble family 1643 †1701

Johan Burdon, born in scottland and orginated from the noble family Burdon of fodel. Colonel, married to Regina Sinclair, daughter of colonel Frans Sinclair

children:
Gustaf † unmarried 1678
one son, probably died in the war against denmark around 1670
Elisabeth, born 1652 in stockholm, married to Johan Gustaf Stråhle af Ekna
Maria, born around 1654, died unmarried 1737
Christina, married to captain Peter Håkansson, noble name: Gyllencaschett in his 2nd marriage
Helena
Johan Bordon, born 1655 in stockholm, captain, died 1701-06-13 and with him, the family died out. His children:
Regina Elisabeth Bordon married 1720-03-27 on Söderö with liutenantcolonel Hans Henrik von Knorring

And that is the lineage I am beloning to, her... Regina.

I also found an old newspaper article that she, in the year 1763 carried her daugthers daugthers daughters son, major and knight Carl Gustaf Moraths little son to be baptised and the notice also mentioned that this child was the first male offspring in over 100 years (probably related to the Bordon family) and in another newpaper article stating that she died in the year 1769, 86 years old.

-- Edited by Danniel on Saturday 12th of June 2010 10:38:15 AM

-- Edited by Danniel on Saturday 12th of June 2010 10:39:12 AM

rddavis1 · Member

Kilted Carver wrote:
Trying to find more info on a Edward or Edmond Berden who died in 1862 in St. Clair, MI. He supposedly was married or had relations with a Margret Sullivan from Ireland whose father ( supposedly) was a man called John Sullivan. I hit a brick wall on this part of the tree. Any suggestions on how to proceed?

From my experience it is the hardest to find info on people in the US from the late 1700's to around the late-mid 1800's.

I've been looking for you and like other lines I have in my tree that came to the US in the times I mentioned they are the hardest to find info on. It's easier to find info on people that came before the pilgrims than it is to find them in the listed timeframe.

I'll keep my eye out for you.

-rob

Knockdow · Guru

Danniel wrote:
Sorry to say that our family died out 1701 but survived on the female side. So, I do not have direct male to male connection :(. But is it still possible to see by dna testing if I have a celtic bloodline?

Danniel.You have Celtic genes but testing today wont be able to confirm that, maybe someday

Wood Badger · Senior Member

Kilted Carver,

I had visited a site after googling "William Barden" I noticed on one site, and I would have to go back and search for it again, that a number of Michigan Barden's were researching the Barden line. I don't know if that gives you any ideas but it might give you additional resources if you can connect up with some others that are looking for the same sir name.

I haven't been able to work on my family tree due to school and work situations here in Wisconsin, but rddavis1 has given me a prod, so to speak, and I may be able to get back to doing some research in a couple of weeks, before I start my next class that is.

I hope this helped or at least gave you an idea or two.

Wood Badger