I see it has been a while since any posts on this forum. I hope I find all of you doing well. I enjoyed reading your posts on the Patrick family. I am also a descendent of the same Patricks as the rest of you. Though while most of you descend from Jeremiah Patrick of 1738 I descend from his brother William born 1734. I am interested in learning more about our history.
Thanks for contributing your Patrick info to our forum. It's all getting interesting enough that we may have to formalize all of this and start a Patrick/Lamont research project like George's site.
Welcome to the forum!
David
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David Patton President Clan Lamont Society of North America
I have read through the posts here, but I don't know anything beyond my GGGG Grandfather Hugh Patrick born circa 1780, who married Mary Beggs. I presume they had more than one child, but so far I only know about their daughter, Margaret, born 7th June 1815. They lived in Ayrshire, Scotland, where she married James Stevenson. They had several children, the youngest of whom, she named after her father. I have yet to find siblings, but presume she would have had a few.
Margaret and James emigrated to Australia, arriving 2nd July 1857, the youngest Hugh, having been born on board. At the time, Margaret stated that her father had died, her mother was still living.
I think I may have some other information possibly, have to go through my files, but don't think it was too much more than what I've said here.
Welcome to the forum, we are very happy you found us. It's great to have another Patrick cousin join us. We hope you enjoy the time you spend here.
If I were going to Salyersville my first stop wopuld be at the Magoffin County Historical Society http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kymhs/index.htm. Todd Preston is President of the Society and knows the location of all the family cemeteries in the area and is a fantastic resource on the history of the area and the area families. He may also be a Patrick cousin.
This is a trip I am planning to take in the near future,maybe not this year, but next year for sure. I know you will enjoy your trip.
The publication of another edition of Dr. Patrick's book would be an excellent project for the Magoffin County Historical Society. I would love to have a copy of this book.
Again, Welcome
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No copies. She had one a couple years ago and since then has gotten tons of calls about it. She did say she wished she did have them with all the inquiries.
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We are glad you found us too! Let me preface this statement by saying I do not have an answer to either request. I just wanted to welcome another Patrick. I'm sure that Jim may have some answers for you though. I still have relatives in the area and have yet to make a trip so I'm curious to hear how your trip goes.
There is definetely a demand albeit small for a reprint of Dr. Lee's book. Don't know how many these guys have available but . . .
PATRICK IN RETROSPECT by Dr. Lee Wellington Patrick. Private Printing, 1993. 1st Ed. Fine/No Jacket. Hardcover. Family history traces the ancestors and descendants of Hugh Patrick (born 1678) and his wife Mary CAMPBELL, focusing on their four sons (Robert, Hugh, William and John) who moved to America circa 1726. Also includes list of Patricks found on federal censuses 1790 through 1840, some miscellaneous Patrick marriages and information. Of interest to anyone researching the Patrick surname. Index. 336 pp. $75.00 plus $3.00 shipping
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Hello fellow Patrick's, I am also from the Magoffin County,Kentucky Patrick's. I presently live in Northern Indiana, where there is a large branch. I have traced my linage back to John Patrick in Scotland also. Looks as though there are lots of us. Does anyone have a copy of Dr. Lee Wellington Patrick's book? Does anyone know who published it? It looks to me as there my be need for a reprint. On a another note, I am taking a little vacation down to Salyersville, Kentucky next week. I plan to take a digital camera and take pictures of grave sites and anything else that is of interest. Also plan to wander through Virginia. Does anyone have any points of interest to Patrick family history that you think I should see? Let me know. I will be leaving April 5,2010 through the 9th. I am glad I found this wonderful forum, full of wonderful Patrick's!
Yeah, I thought I saw a soup stain on yer kilt last I saw ye, there, Jamie!
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We are so happy to have you wih us here on the Patrick Forum, our family does indeed have Scottish roots, we're all proud of our Patrick ancestors, we do know for sure that we are blood Lamonts.
If you will look at some of the earlier posts in this thread you will find a lot of genealogical information on our family. Please ask you have any specific questions about our family, please ask, we are always happy to share the information. I have transcriptions of some early deeds and court records about Jeremiah and his family.
You may be interested to know that you are also descended from Clans Blair and Campbell.
These guys are going to be all over me for even mentioning the Campbells. So I must run and hide from George and Luckey.
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Magoffin County Historical Society http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kymhs/index.htm They have some books on the Patrick’s from Kentucky.
Dr. Lee Wellington Patrick of Fairway, Kansas. Patrick in Retrospect published in 1993. Dr. Lee Patrick book is out of print. I have been looking for his book my self.
Wendy, in spite of what these reprobates say I would like to welcome you most warmly to our humble forum. You'll learn many things here about your magnificent Patrick ancestors.
If you have read very many posts you may have noticed we also like to have a little fun too! Of course if the fun goes on very long, we non-Patricks in the group sometimes need to 'splain things to the Patricks because they have such a short attention span. The poor louts also have a fairly limited vocabulary. We feel bad for them.
Of course Wendy, we don't include you in the above mentioned group...yet.
Have fun and may your posts be better than the average Patrick's - easy peasy.
Obviously you read the other posts first and know that both me and Jim "MacPatrick" are descendants of Jeremiah and Sally also. Then there is Dennis who is a descendant of Jeremiah's brother.
I have to take a moment to mention how cool this is. We are glad you found us.
Jim mentioned how to get The Patrick Family of Eastern Kentucky but I don't think he mentioned the other.
No worries Wendy. He'll be posting soon!
Sorry everybody but here is comes . . . Welcome Cousin Patrick!
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Hello, My name is Wendy Koogler. My maiden name is Patrick and I'm a direct descendent of Hugh Patrick and Mary Campbell. My line is from Robert Patrick & Elizabeth their son, Jeremiah. Jeremiah Patrick married Sarah "Sallie" Blair & from their son Brice. Brice Patrick married wife who is unknown? & from their son, Elias. Elias Patrick married Fanny Riddle & from their son Jesse. Jesse Patrick married Susanna Rhodes & from their son Arthur. Arthur Patrick married Lydia Lang & from their son, Charles Maxwell Patrick. Charles Patrick married Mary Van Campen & their son Charles Arthur Patrick.Charles A. Patrick married Wilma Moore & their son, Charles Michael Patrick. Charles M. Patrick married Cheryl Overman & their daughter Gwendolyn " Wendy" Patrick Koogler.
Brice Patrick left Kentucky and was supposed to go to Missouri but stayed in Crawford Co. or Harrison Co., Indiana. We are the Patricks of Southern Indiana. We stayed until 1920 and the young Patricks left for better jobs. My family stoped in St. Louis,Missouri and stayed their ever since. My great grandfather, Charles Maxwell Patrick told us we are from Scottish roots. I would love to find our Patrick family history. Where can I find the book Patrick in Restrospect or any other information about the Patricks.
I met a bunch of Browns and Whites this weekend and at other shows. Between them and the Turner's they are probably the septs that could easily tip the scales on us Patricks. Good thing for us that the Browns and Whites can't stand to not know 100% if they are Lamonts or not and the Turners don't like to belong to anything organized.
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Great stuff Todd! Thanks for sharing so much info. The Patricks will find it of great use. Keep checking in as I'm sure many conversations will sprout from this. Enjoy.
Welcome Todd and thanks for the info. I found some info from Dr. Wellington Patrick on the internet. I have been unable to fine a hard copy of his book Patrick in Retrospect so any new info would be greatly accepted.
You are related to David, James, Dennis and I, it's great to have another Patrick cousin here on the forum.
Thank you for posting this information, I have not seen the majority of this information. I appreciate your generosity in posting this information on the forum. It will help contribute to our success.
I have quite a bit of information on the Patrick families of Kentucky from the Magoffin County Historical Society.
We signed up a new member at Stone Mountain this past weekend, and guess what he is a PATRICK too!
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We can always use another Patrick cousin around here. There aren't nearly enough. Thank you for posting all of this great information. All of my Patrick (and Patton) relatives with a few exceptions are still in Kentucky. Sadly, I haven't met any of them.
Welcome and thanks again!
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Among the earliest records of the family in Great Britain are those of William Patric of Lincolnshire in 1273; those of Ivo Patryk of County Essex about the same time; those of Ralph Patryk on Hertforshire about 1292; those of Patric de Culwen of Westmoreland and Cumberland Counties of 1307; those of Willelmus Patrik of Howdenshire about 1379; those of John Paterik of Yorkshire about the same time; and those of John Patrick of Ayrshire before 1459. These early bearers of the name appear to have been largely of the British landed gentry and yeomanry.
The Scotch Family of Patrick
It is probably that the noted Ayrshire, Scotland family of the name traces its descent from John Patrick last mentioned in the paragraph above, although this is not certain. This family was represented in 1549 by William Patrick, who was the father of a son named John, who was the father of Hew or Hugh, Robert, James, John, and Alexander. Of these, Hew (or Hugh) was the father by his wife, Janet Crawford, of James, Robert, and Hew (or Hugh), of whom the second was the father in the early seventeenth century of Hew (or Hugh), Robert, and John; Robert probably left no issue (children); James married Agnes Finlay, and was the father of Thomas, Hew (or Hugh), John, James, Robert, and Williams, all of whom assumed the name of Kilpatrick, or Killpatrick, the eldest son, Thomas, being the father of a son named John and probably of others as well; John married Agnes Dockson and was the father by her of James and Robert, both of whom left numerous issue in Scotland; and Alexander resided in County Antrim, Ireland, and probably left numerous issue there by his wife Joanna Greg.
Burke’s Encyclopedia of Heraldry, London, 1844, gives a brief statement about the Scotch line of Patricks as follows:
The ancestors of the different familes of the name of Patrick who now hold property in the County of Ayr (Ayrshire, Scotland) were settled and held about the Monastery of Kilwinning, long before the Reformation. From John Patrick of Overmains near Kilwinning, living in 1605, lineally descended John Patrick from whom his Tutors purchased in 1748 the lands of Tearne in his native county. He was father of Robert Patrick of Tearne and Hazlehead, in Ayreshire, Esq. Burke’s Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland, 1852 (vol. 3, p. 1009) has this to say about the Patricks in Scotland:
The ancestors of the different families of Patrick which now hold property in Ayrshire (says Robertson) were settled, and hold situations about Kilwinning, long prior to the Reformation. John Patrick attests as a notary public a charter connected with the church, dated 19 July 1459, afterwards ratified in Parliament; and William Patrick is a subscribing witness to a lock of teinds of Dalry, granted by Alexander a commendator of Kilwinning to John Hamilton, 1459.
The Patricks becoming early converts to the Protestant religion joined the reformers under the Earl of Glencairn, and some of them accompanied the expedition to the north of Ireland under Hugh Montmorency of Broadstone, afterwards Viscount of Ardes, who as expressed in his patent from James VI, brought a colony of Scots into Clandebara and Ardes, toward the increase of the restored religion, settled in that country where their descendants still possess property near Derry.
John Patrick (son of William Patrick) who obtained a grant of the lands of Overmains, near Kilwinning, from the monastery, acquired by charter, in 1605, the estate of Byres, in Ayrshire and subsequently part of the lands of Dalgarven. He died in 1638 leaving five sons, James, Robert, Hew, John, Alexander.
Scan of the Patrick entry found in A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Commoners of Great Britian and Ireland, John Burke, 1835. Includes a smaller depiction of the Patrick Coat of Arms.
Burke’s Landed Gentry, published at London, England, 1939 edition, brings up to date (as of 1940) the Patrick family in Scotland. It gives the following account:
Enid Helen Constance Ralston-Patrick of Roughwood, with which is combined the former separate estates of Trearne, and 6th of Hesselhead, County Ayr; b. 25 April 1906. S her father 21 Nov. 1935.
Lineage. John Patrick (son of William Patrick who obtained a grant of lands of Overmains, near Kilwinning from the monastery) acquired by charter 1605, the estates of Byres, County Ayr (Scotland) and subsequently part of the lands of Dangarven. He died 1638 leaving five sons of whom the eldest Hew Patrick of Overmains m. Janet, dau. Of John Craufurd, and was father of Robert Patrick, who acquired from Hugh, Earl of Eglington, Waterside, County Ayr (Scotland) by grant confirmed by a charter from the Crown, dated 31st August, 1663. He m. and had three sons. Robert Patrick d. 1676 and was s. by his eldest son,
Hew Patrick of Waterside, d. s. p., 1682 and was s. by his brother
Robert Patrick of Waterside, m. Janet, dau. of Thomas Shedden of Windyhouse, and had three sons:
Robert Patrick, m. Barbara, dau. of John Conn, and by her left at his decease, 1736, a son and a dau., John and Janet, m. her cousin John Patrick of Drumbuil.
John Patrick who bequeathed the lands of Barestone, in Beith, County Ayr (Sotland) but d. s. p. (sic)
Hew who also d. s. p. (sic)
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William Ralston-Patrick of Trearne, and 4th of Hasselbeard, J. P., and late Captain, Ayrshire yeomanry, b. 28 Nov., 1838; s. his great Uncle, William Patrick of Roughwood, Co. Ayr, in that estate, 1861, and the death of his brother in 1866; m. 9 Dec., 1866, Jemina, eldest dau. of James Allison of Stranrear, County Wigtown, and d. 22 Jan. 1919, leaving issue ***** William Wilson, J. P., of Castlehill, Co. Ayr, and d. Nov. 1925, leaving issue (sic)
Enid Helen Constance, now of Roughwood and Hesselhead.
Hello! I found this forum while searching for information regarding the Scottish Patricks of Kentucky and thought I'd share some of my line, from Robert Patrick to my great-grand father, Frederick Laforest Patrick.
The majority of my information comes from The Name and Family of Patrick, a paper published in 1940, presented at the Patrick Reunion, Slayersville, Magoffin County, Kentucky, September 22, 1940, and written by Dr. Wellington Patrick, University of Kentucky.
--------- Robert Patrick: b. 1705, Edinburgh, Scotland. Married Elizabeth Ann Stephens (b. 1709) on 1728 in Yellow Britches, Cumberland Co., Pennsylvania. d. 1758 in Frederick Co., Maryland.
Arrived in Philadelphia on Aug. 25, 1725 with brothers Hugh, William and John.
He took a bride, Elizabeth, in 1728 and they owned land on Yellow Breeches Creek, Cumberland Co., PA in 1742. Their six children--5 boys and 1 girl--played with George Washington as children.
s. James fought under Col. Washington at Braddock’s Defeat, French and Indian War.
Children: James, Hugh, John J, Elizabeth, Jeremiah, William
Hugh Patrick: b. 1732, Loudoun Co., Virginia. Married Susannah Harris (1742-1793). d. 1814, Roane, Lee Co. Virginia.
Hugh Patrick was a soldier in the Revolutionary War. He was sworn to Captain John Draper's Company by Stephen Trigg in 1777.
Hugh and Jeremiah were given land grants by the Loyal Land Company in January 1775. This land was on the New River and later became part of Montgomery County, VA. Hugh and Jeremiah owned adjoining land. Both of them lived in Montgomery County, VA. until after the Revolution. In the spring of 1789, they sold their holdings in Montgomery County, VA.
No land records for James were found in Montgomery County. However, he was in service during most of this period. He was in the Army several times but records show that each time he was discharged he returned to an area where Hugh and Jeremiah resided.
All three of the brothers were in North Carolina when the 1790 census was taken. They apparently did not remain there very long because Hugh was in Lee County, VA by 1795 and Jeremiah was in Russell County, VA. These were adjoining counties. At that time both of these counties in Virginia adjoined Kentucky.
On March 6, 1798, Hugh Patrick purchased 200 acres of land from Frederick Jones in Lee County, Virginia.
Robert “Robin” Patrick Sr.: b. 1764, August, Staunton Co., Virginia. Married twice, 1. Elizabeth “Betsy” McMullin, 2. Nancy Prater. d. 1859 in Patrick Cemetery, Patrick, Madison Co., Arkansas
Robert and his first wife Betsy lived for a time in Wilkes County, North Carolina and were in Lee County, Virginia and Overton Co., Tenn. before migrating to Floyd County, Kentucky. ~1810?
Military service with the Kentucky Militia during the War of 1812.
Robert owned land on the Licking River in Floyd co., Ky. He was later granted land on the right hand fork of Oakley Creek, His land was located at the meadows of Licking at the mouth of Gun Creek. This would be of the area where the town of Royalton now stands. He operated a grist mill at the foot of the Big Half mountain in what is now Magoffin Co., Kentucky.
After 30 years in Kentucky, Robert decided it was time to move again. In 1838, at age 74, migrated to Madison Co., Arkansas where he settled on the White River following Betsy’s death. Out of his seventeen children, six children; Robert Patrick Jr., Wiley Patrick, Jemima Patrick, Mary Ann Patrick, George W. Patrick and Rhoda Patrick, came with their father to Madison County, Arkansas.
Children: 1) Hugh, Henry, Hiram, Robert Jr., Nancy, Margaret, Brice, 2) John, Jemima, Elizabeth, Mary Ann, George, Wiley, Alexander, Sarah, Samuel, Rhoda
Hugh Patrick: b. 1805, of Johnson, Magoffin Co., Kentucky (Overton Co., TN?). Married to Mary Jane Prater (1808-1880), Married June 3rd 1826. d. 1833, Magoffin Co., Ky.
Children: Sara, Archibald, Gincy, Robert, Margaret, Celia, Lucinda, Nancy, Mary Jane, William, Henry
Robert “Robin” Patrick: b. 1833 in Floyd, Kentucky. Married twice. 1. Sarah "Sallie Anna" Davis on Jan 6th 1853, 2. Sarah Caroline Childers on Dec 1st 1863.
Lived on Turkey Branch, Johnson, Magoffin County, Kentucky.
Benjamin Franklin Patrick: b. 1860 in Magoffin Co., Kentucky. Married Mary Elizabeth Taulbee (b.1865), on Sept. 29th 1881 in Hazel Green, Kentucky. d. July 1952 in Sapulpa, Creek Co., Oklahoma.
Mary Taulbee, sister of Congressman William P. Taulbee, a Democrat to the 49th and 50th Congresses. He was shot by Charles E. Kincaid, a journalist with whom he had quarreled, on the marble steps of the Capitol Building, Washington, D.C., Feb. 28, 1890
In 1894 relocated to Waxahachie, Texas and then to Creek Nation Indian Territory in 1903 due to Boll Weevil plague.
Engaged in farming and stock raising during the summer, taught school during winter months.
Frederick Laforest Patrick: b. April 6th 1889 in Adele, Morgan Co., Kentucky. Married Anna Mae Wetherington, on May 5, 1908 at Wolfe, Oklahoma. d. October 14, 1970 in Sapulpa, Creek Co., Oklahoma.
Migrated with family to a cotton plantation in Waxahachie, Texas and then to Creek Nation Indian Territory in 1903.
Appointed by the Five Civilized Tribes to teach at Wolfe, Seminole Nation.
Champion saddle bronc/trick rider and foot racer in 1909, outrunning famed Indian athlete Jim Thorpe.
Enshrined in the Cowboy Hall of Fame in Oklahoma City, opened his law office in Sapulpa, Okla. in 1913 and served as mayor of Sapulpa from 1948-1950
Hopefully this can be of use, or possibly someone could help fill in some of the holes as most of my information is dated. The Hugh (son of Robert, brother of Jeremiah) line seems to be a bit harder to uncover, especially in the 1800's.
Regards,
Todd Ryan Patrick
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I'm Susa Black - my husband, Michael, is Clan Lamont. I'm a descendent of Mary Patrick, daughter of Alexander Patrick. She died in New York in 1692. I have a lot of Scottish sept names in my family from Clans MacDonald, MacGregor, Craig and Douglas.
Check out my travelogue for my most recent trip to Scotland in 2007!
I'm Susa Black - my husband, Michael, is Clan Lamont. I'm a descendent of Mary Patrick, daughter of Alexander Patrick. She died in New York in 1692. I have a lot of Scottish sept names in my family from Clans MacDonald, MacGregor, Craig and Douglas.
Check out my travelogue for my most recent trip to Scotland in 2007!
Hi Y'all, my Mac Patricks came throught the Port of Charleston in 1711. They were Anglicised as Paterson by the bloody English who ruled the colonies at that time. They didn't want many around with marked differences,especially names, so Paterson it was. My Macpatrick ancestor had the middle name of Couston,how "Cowal-ish" can this be. He was the son of a Neil Paterson(MacPatrick) who came to the colonies as an indentured servant and headed straight for the mountains of N.C./S.C. when his seven years were done. The family migrated through the hills of Georgia and ended up about 15 miles from Blairsville,Georgia where we had a fabulous turn-out for the Highland games a few weeks ago!! FanninCo.,Murray Co.,Gilmer Co. and Polk Co.(Tn.) are littered with cousins galore! This is the sept with which I joined CLSNA too,David! Glad I did now!! Haven't stopped enjoying since I joined!
I found this about Robert Patrick on the internet. My Granddad told me that are family came over to America as bound servant. This mite be hem?
Robert Patrick came to Philadelphia PA on Aug. 25, 1725 at the age of 21. He came as a bound servant on the ship Amity from the Bideford, England. He was Indentured Servant to James Gerard. He owned property in 1741 in Salisbury Township, Lancaster County PA. and Yellow Britches Creek, PA. Between 1754-1758 he was Constable of Sugar Loaf Hundred. His son James was one of the Colonel Washington's soldiers at Braddock's Defeat defeat. Most of Robert Patrick's children served with Washington in the Revolutionary War.
What is the name of the book? Can I find a copy of it?
I have another Patrick Coat of Arms but I don't remember what it looked like, I'll have to take a look at it again. The one I was describing earlier stuck in my mind because it was so similar to the Lamont crest, so I scanned it for future reference.
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That wound like you to email the Coat of arms. I got a book of the Patrick family from around the would that had a coat of arms that had an arm coming out of the top of the shield with a cross in it hand. I don’t think it is the right one.
I do have a copy of a Patrick Coat of Arms that I can send you. It is in black and white I don't know the colors though. The interesting thing about it is that it is a copy of the Lamont arms with the edge band around it that indicates a cadet family and has the hand found on the clan badge above it. It will send it you via personal e-mail as I have it on my computer at home.
Be aware a Coat of Arms is issued to an individual and are not a family coat of arms, but it is an interesting insight into our heritage and does confirm that we do indeed have a Lamont heritage.
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